PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
"Her choice not to attend today is the last decision she will ever make about where she spends her time. In the years to come, perhaps she will learn to regret it."
The Trial of Lucy Letby
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Can't get my head round this. How utterly harrowing.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
They always do that with new life prisoners. They won't keep that up forever as I doubt they have the manpower. Fred West eventually managed it.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Yes, same here.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There are only three women prisoners with whole life tariffs
Hindley was the other but she’s now deceased. Not sure why Allitt was never handed one.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
West and Denehhy. Hindley died.
Cid
Proper break this time
They do now; Rosemary West and Joanna Dennehy (a 2013 spree killer I have genuinely never heard of). And as above Hindley is the final, but deceased.
Anyone else want to give the same answer?
maomao
普費斯
Well it's better than us all answering differently.
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
Hear, hear.
These people must bear some small guilt. Who knows how many would still be alive if the managers had acted when this was first brought to their attention. They must accept their culpability and be punished accordingly.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I struggle to imagine how day to day work went on in the months after doctors first raised their concerns (and management firstly ignored them, secondly manipulated the inquiries and finally threatened the docs into apologising/shutting up). At the beginning of that period there was a probably a bit of cognitive dissonance in the minds of the docs - 'this needs examining, but surely she can't be killing them' - through to a strong sense they were dealing with a child killer at the end (particularly the period before just before she was removed - and then reinstated). How did they manage to do day to day work, which would have meant working with her and passing on treatment plans to her for the different children, doing ward rounds with her etc?
Am I right in saying we didn't hear much/anything from the other nurses on the ward at the trial?
Am I right in saying we didn't hear much/anything from the other nurses on the ward at the trial?
RainbowTown
Well-Known Member
This makes for a hard read.
What the babies' parents told Lucy Letby as she was sentenced
The dad of two murdered boys says "it destroyed me", and a mum says she relives an attack "every day".
www.bbc.co.uk
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Whole Life Tariff - which for her own safety she'll spend largely [completely ?] in solitary.
Even the screws will hate her, even whilst behaving completely professionally.
At 33 she's going to have a very long time to consider her actions.
Just hope that she doesn't "find god" in an attempt to ameliorate her self-made isolation / situation.
perhaps instead of a bible, she should get the OED ...
I wouldn't trust her with anything sharp / flammable or even interesting.
Even the screws will hate her, even whilst behaving completely professionally.
At 33 she's going to have a very long time to consider her actions.
Just hope that she doesn't "find god" in an attempt to ameliorate her self-made isolation / situation.
perhaps instead of a bible, she should get the OED ...
I wouldn't trust her with anything sharp / flammable or even interesting.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
It cost about £40k a year to keep someone in prison. A dropped razor blade is 10p.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Think Hindley was on something like 30 years, but never got released because no Home Secretary would sign it off.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
That would let her have an easy way out, far too easy.
Has she shown any sign of remorse ?
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
She's already been inside for what 5 years? Presume she'll have been in isolation/VP for all of that too. Do things radically change from here on?
Edit - not quite. 3 years ish. Remanded after her 3rd arrest in November 2020.
Edit - not quite. 3 years ish. Remanded after her 3rd arrest in November 2020.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Post in thread 'Saint Myra Hindley - time to move on?'
https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/saint-myra-hindley-time-to-move-on.110001/post-3709428
Or perhaps not?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Would this 'policy' be applied to all prisoners serving sentences of more than 12 months?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Whole life orders were brought in in 1983, so Hindley didn't get one of those. In effect she did have one, though. Life sentences come with minimums rather than maximums.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Are you an advisor to Rishi Sunak?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Obviously not as has gone not-guilty all the way through.
Would imagine that Rampton will be seeing her at some point.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Yeah, I’ve considered that if she’s been in some form of extreme denial then there’s a possibility that if that breaks down she’ll end up on a psychiatric section. Or maybe that’s me projecting as I don’t see how anyone could do something so horrific and live with themselves/not lose touch with reality.
It also wouldn’t be a cop out - psychiatric secure units aren’t great places and whilst this won’t apply to a life sentence, criminal MH sections can lead to periods of incarceration that way outstretch original sentences.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
No. Didn't turn up for sentencing, and her parents are claiming she was innocent.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
No. Just for people who murder small children.
We have nurses on here, I'm one of them. For us all, the safeguarding of those little lives was/is the most challenging and rewarding part of our training. We would have done anything to preserve a baby's life. The worst moment of my nursing life was having a baby with whooping cough literally die in my arms. I cried myself to sleep that night. They are so fragile, so tiny, to begin with you are genuinely afraid to handle them in case you break them. The death of a baby is a dreadful thing to happen, for it to happen by deliberate act is absolutely beyond comprehension.
This person is utterly beyond redemption, and can never adequately pay for what she did. It wouldn't distress me for an instant if she committed suicide, I wouldn't be dancing with joy, a life is a life, I signed up to look after them all, irrespective of what they had done, but I certainly wouldn't be upset.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
No.
RedRedRose
Well-Known Member
Reading through a journalists court notes, I found it strange that she only cried when 1) the doctor she fancied gave evidence, 2) she spoke about her own suicidal thoughts, 3) spoke about her arrest. The death/near death of 13 children seems to have passed her by. I am not qualified to make psychological evaluations, but there definitely seems to be a lack of empathy combined with narcism in her conduct and possibly an infatuation with the junior doctor may have played some small part in her actions.
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