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The Reform UK Party (latest nigel farage vehicle) is it to be laughed at or not

Puddy_Tat said:
we did have some thoughts about this when the vermin were in one of their turmoils, and the 'what if that twat johnson was re-elected party leader now he's not no longer an MP?' question came up.

taking it more from the 'what if the leader of the party who won the general election lost their seat?' angle, institute of government says dunno although it raises the question of how a PM who wasn't an MP could deal with prime minister's questions and so on.

there doesn't seem to be a specific rule that PM absolutely has to be an MP. Some parties have a rule that party leader has to be a sitting MP, but that's up to each party. The leader of the SNP is an MSP not a westminster MP, but since they only stand for election in a small proportion of UK seats, there's little chance of the SNP forming a government at westminster.

alec douglas-home was PM for 4 days as a member of the house of lords, then for a few weeks without being an MP while a by-election was set up for him.
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I think before c20 PMs were mostly from the HoL.
 
The role of PM has little constitutional necessity under UK law. You could quite easily operate within the current legislative framework without a PM and only a cabinet.
PM Q's were until at least 1997 twice a week and are only a convention. Someone needs to go to the King and state they can form a government that commands the support of the House of Commons but that someone could be literally anyone.
 
Not even sure I can spot an under 60, possibly one but she might be someone’s carer.

You can’t really sell the ‘good old days’ and ‘turn back the clock’ story to anyone under 50, they’ll all be hankering for free parties, being able to live off the dole without hassle and free further education, which doesn’t align much with what Farage offers.
 
Good Law Project digging the dirt on a reform candidate who isn't any more:

goodlawproject.org

Reform UK drops candidate who spread racist and Islamophobic posts - Good Law Project

After racist and Islamophobic posts on social media were found by Good Law Project, Reform UK has dropped a candidate standing in Yorkshire. But the party has declined to say whether it will act against three more. Content warning: Islamophobia, racism, far-right tropes
goodlawproject.org goodlawproject.org
 
They really are not serious about winning elections, if they were, they'd not have had a conference this deep into the cycle. They'd have been standing in more places and actually campaigning, hoping to get a polling boost.

It's instead more about playing the national media game so they can influence the Conservatives
 
BusLanes said:
They really are not serious about winning elections, if they were, they'd not have had a conference this deep into the cycle. They'd have been standing in more places and actually campaigning, hoping to get a polling boost.

It's instead more about playing the national media game so they can influence the Conservatives
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They're standing candidates in 4 wards here. 3 of the wards are Labour held wards and one Cons.
 
ska invita said:
globalist is another example of how the left has lost territory that is ours to the far right
anti-globalisation and critique of the media were key planks in the late 90s/early 2000s, of course framed very differently, now the preserve of the far-right and conspiracy cranks
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yeah what happened there?
 
The39thStep said:
The Spectator, for some unknown reason, has published details of ten candidates dropped by Reform

www.spectator.co.uk

The ten candidates dropped by Reform

Reform UK’s election campaign hasn’t got off to the best start. Richard Tice’s party has already had to drop ten prospective parliamentary candidates after some rather unsavoury social media posts were highlighted by media organisations and campaign groups. The Reform leader has since said that...
www.spectator.co.uk www.spectator.co.uk
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Reform is not Tufton St's preferred far right party
 
ska invita said:
Definitely not fash

A Reform UK candidate has apologised for claiming the country would be "far better" if it had "taken Hitler up on his offer of neutrality" instead of fighting the Nazis in World War Two

www.bbc.co.uk

Reform UK candidate apologises over Hitler neutrality comments

Ian Gribbin says his grandparents were "Russian Jews fleeing persecution" and his comments were taken out of context.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Also in case anyone didn't click on the link youd have missed

"Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care"
Amazing stuff

The previous month he criticised women, writing on the site’s message board: "Do you think you could actually work and pay for it all too like good citizens?

"Men pay 80% of tax – women spend 80% of tax revenue. On aggregate as a group you only take from society.

"Less complaining please from the 'sponging gender'."

He added that women are "subsidised by men to merely breath (sic)".
 
ska invita said:
Also in case anyone didn't click on the link youd have missed

"Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care"
Amazing stuff

The previous month he criticised women, writing on the site’s message board: "Do you think you could actually work and pay for it all too like good citizens?

"Men pay 80% of tax – women spend 80% of tax revenue. On aggregate as a group you only take from society.

"Less complaining please from the 'sponging gender'."

He added that women are "subsidised by men to merely breath (sic)".
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The article also mentions "In December 2021 he wrote female soldiers "almost made me wretch (sic)" and were a "total liability"."
Which feels like he can't make his mind up on the subject of whether he wants women to have jobs or not.
 
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