The Reform UK Party (latest nigel farage vehicle) is it to be laughed at or not

[Raheem]

we did have some thoughts about this when the vermin were in one of their turmoils, and the 'what if that twat johnson was re-elected party leader now he's not no longer an MP?' question came up.

taking it more from the 'what if the leader of the party who won the general election lost their seat?' angle, institute of government says dunno although it raises the question of how a PM who wasn't an MP could deal with prime minister's questions and so on.

there doesn't seem to be a specific rule that PM absolutely has to be an MP. Some parties have a rule that party leader has to be a sitting MP, but that's up to each party. The leader of the SNP is an MSP not a westminster MP, but since they only stand for election in a small proportion of UK seats, there's little chance of the SNP forming a government at westminster.

alec douglas-home was PM for 4 days as a member of the house of lords, then for a few weeks without being an MP while a by-election was set up for him.

I think before c20 PMs were mostly from the HoL.

 

[kenny g]

The role of PM has little constitutional necessity under UK law. You could quite easily operate within the current legislative framework without a PM and only a cabinet.
PM Q's were until at least 1997 twice a week and are only a convention. Someone needs to go to the King and state they can form a government that commands the support of the House of Commons but that someone could be literally anyone.

 

[T & P]

This is from one of their meetings a few weeks ago, but I have only just seen it and made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it

 

[Pickman's model]

This is from one of their meetings a few weeks ago, but I have only just seen it and made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it

an absence of anyone under 30 40

 

[Dogsauce]

Not even sure I can spot an under 60, possibly one but she might be someone’s carer.

You can’t really sell the ‘good old days’ and ‘turn back the clock’ story to anyone under 50, they’ll all be hankering for free parties, being able to live off the dole without hassle and free further education, which doesn’t align much with what Farage offers.

 

[teqniq]

Good Law Project digging the dirt on a reform candidate who isn't any more:

Reform UK drops candidate who spread racist and Islamophobic posts - Good Law Project

After racist and Islamophobic posts on social media were found by Good Law Project, Reform UK has dropped a candidate standing in Yorkshire. But the party has declined to say whether it will act against three more. Content warning: Islamophobia, racism, far-right tropes

goodlawproject.org

 

[tim]

Yeah just saw it here:

Reform apologises after sacking ‘inactive’ candidate who turned out to be dead

‘I’m mortified that through ignorance I did not realise the reason for his inactivity,’ says party chief

www.independent.co.uk

Sadly, it was the chap from York not Tice who was actually mortified.

 

[BusLanes]

They really are not serious about winning elections, if they were, they'd not have had a conference this deep into the cycle. They'd have been standing in more places and actually campaigning, hoping to get a polling boost.

It's instead more about playing the national media game so they can influence the Conservatives

 

[not a trot]

They really are not serious about winning elections, if they were, they'd not have had a conference this deep into the cycle. They'd have been standing in more places and actually campaigning, hoping to get a polling boost.

It's instead more about playing the national media game so they can influence the Conservatives

They're standing candidates in 4 wards here. 3 of the wards are Labour held wards and one Cons.

 

[two sheds]

Any of them dead?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Any of them dead?

it's sometimes hard to tell...

 

[cupid_stunt]

Any of them dead?

We live in hope.

 

[CooltanRefugee]

globalist is another example of how the left has lost territory that is ours to the far right
anti-globalisation and critique of the media were key planks in the late 90s/early 2000s, of course framed very differently, now the preserve of the far-right and conspiracy cranks

yeah what happened there?

 

[krtek a houby]

yeah what happened there?

It's code. When someone is banging on about the globalists, they'll usually be mentioning the New World Order not long after.

Some of the canards are subtle, some aren't.

 

[Politiking]

Same party isn't it? Been around a few years now. "Brexit party" renamed. I thought Farage had quit them as leader though or is he back again?

Farage is the honorary President of Reform UK...

 

[DotCommunist]

honorary because if he got a real role in it he'd end up leading the latest right of tory vehicle, again?

 

[teqniq]

CWS:

 

[moochedit]

Farage is the honorary President of Reform UK...

Why the thumbs up?

 

[krtek a houby]

Farage is the honorary President of Reform UK...

And what does that mean to you?

 

[InArduisFouette]

The Spectator, for some unknown reason, has published details of ten candidates dropped by Reform

The ten candidates dropped by Reform

Reform UK’s election campaign hasn’t got off to the best start. Richard Tice’s party has already had to drop ten prospective parliamentary candidates after some rather unsavoury social media posts were highlighted by media organisations and campaign groups. The Reform leader has since said that...

www.spectator.co.uk

Reform is not Tufton St's preferred far right party

 

[ska invita]

this twunt Edward Apostolides is standing in my seat
just checked his twitter for a laugh...bio : "Freeman of the City of London"

 

[stavros]

Former candidates, only dropped yesterday, revealed to be racist arseholes.

 

[ska invita]

Good account this

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Oh that link doesn't show much, it's an account exposing Reform members

 

[ska invita]

Definitely not fash

A Reform UK candidate has apologised for claiming the country would be "far better" if it had "taken Hitler up on his offer of neutrality" instead of fighting the Nazis in World War Two

Reform UK candidate apologises over Hitler neutrality comments

Ian Gribbin says his grandparents were "Russian Jews fleeing persecution" and his comments were taken out of context.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The39thStep]

Definitely not fash

A Reform UK candidate has apologised for claiming the country would be "far better" if it had "taken Hitler up on his offer of neutrality" instead of fighting the Nazis in World War Two

Reform UK candidate apologises over Hitler neutrality comments

Ian Gribbin says his grandparents were "Russian Jews fleeing persecution" and his comments were taken out of context.

www.bbc.co.uk

Might be related to the Duke of Windsor

 

[Ranbay]

TickTok is infested with reform bots posting , Vote Reform.

 

[ska invita]

Definitely not fash

A Reform UK candidate has apologised for claiming the country would be "far better" if it had "taken Hitler up on his offer of neutrality" instead of fighting the Nazis in World War Two

Reform UK candidate apologises over Hitler neutrality comments

Ian Gribbin says his grandparents were "Russian Jews fleeing persecution" and his comments were taken out of context.

www.bbc.co.uk

Also in case anyone didn't click on the link youd have missed

"Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care"
Amazing stuff

The previous month he criticised women, writing on the site’s message board: "Do you think you could actually work and pay for it all too like good citizens?

"Men pay 80% of tax – women spend 80% of tax revenue. On aggregate as a group you only take from society.

"Less complaining please from the 'sponging gender'."

He added that women are "subsidised by men to merely breath (sic)".

 

[Ranbay]

I hope they win, for the LOL's

 

[MickiQ]

This is from one of their meetings a few weeks ago, but I have only just seen it and made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it

Every variation of old white person imaginable

 

[hitmouse]

Also in case anyone didn't click on the link youd have missed

"Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care"
Amazing stuff

The previous month he criticised women, writing on the site’s message board: "Do you think you could actually work and pay for it all too like good citizens?

"Men pay 80% of tax – women spend 80% of tax revenue. On aggregate as a group you only take from society.

"Less complaining please from the 'sponging gender'."

He added that women are "subsidised by men to merely breath (sic)".

The article also mentions "In December 2021 he wrote female soldiers "almost made me wretch (sic)" and were a "total liability"."
Which feels like he can't make his mind up on the subject of whether he wants women to have jobs or not.