Treacle Toes
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It's the Mexican themed joke, innocent/funny or not, someone having pushed a woman off of a cliff joke again? Tequila?
If you don't think it's funny why post it?
If you don't think it's funny why post it?
The children of Windrush
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mx wcfc
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I honestly didn't think anyone would be offended by that copy post that is doing the rounds on FB. I thought it was taking the piss out of May. I will delete.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
It is funny.
mx wcfc
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I thought it was a funny meme. It is clearly not funny for the people on the receiving end of this awful series of events.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
It's funny because of the depiction of the casual callousness of the people who quite deliberately did this.
I don't think many people think of the Tories' "hostile environment" gambit as anything other than utterly disgusting, and I think the joke underlines this.
Treacle Toes
Time
To you.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think the depiction of these execrable shitwads as a bunch of callous unthinking buffoons is exactly how their people don't want to see them portrayed.
I'm a bit wary of the idea that satire should tread lightly. Especially in these times.
edit: the only issue I have with it is that it lets Amber Rudd off a bit lightly
Treacle Toes
Time
So what. I feel differently to you today...maybe other days too.
I get the joke. It was and has continued to be made for many years already as I showed with the Mexican/tequila reference above.
Jokes wear thin IME, satirical or not.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Fair enough, I get that.
I don't see it as trivialising anything myself, I think it makes the point very well about what these people are about, and their hamfisted attempt to make political gains by pandering to the worst elements of our media without a thought to the consequences for real people.
Tbf this is the only joke I've seen on the matter, and I might be missing other possible readings of things.
not-bono-ever
meh
May 'had plan for illegal migrant pupils'
a few years old now & not massively relevant to windrush, but shows how the utterly fucking shitty Mayhem thinks. It even makes Nicky Morgan seem half human.
a few years old now & not massively relevant to windrush, but shows how the utterly fucking shitty Mayhem thinks. It even makes Nicky Morgan seem half human.
not-bono-ever
meh
Spike Milligan
"I never see myself as Irish, but I am. My father and mother were both Irish and had Irish passports. I had a British passport, but when I went to get it renewed, and said my father was born in Ireland before 1900, they said I couldn't have a British passport - some bloody law.
So I said, fuck you. I went to the Irish Embassy and I said: "My name's Spike Milligan, can I have a passport?" And they said, "Oh yes! We're short of people."
"I never see myself as Irish, but I am. My father and mother were both Irish and had Irish passports. I had a British passport, but when I went to get it renewed, and said my father was born in Ireland before 1900, they said I couldn't have a British passport - some bloody law.
So I said, fuck you. I went to the Irish Embassy and I said: "My name's Spike Milligan, can I have a passport?" And they said, "Oh yes! We're short of people."
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
My guess:when times are hard, and they feel that they are up against it, it is the default reaction of Tory politicians to play to the forriner hater gallery.
They practically can't
help themselves - it's hardwired
Athos
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It's not a reference to the tequila joke. But to a very old and very famous joke: 'my wife's gone to the West Indies', 'Jamaica?', 'no, she went of her own accord.' It appeared in print as far back as 1914 (The Railroad Telegrapher), was used by PG Wodehouse in the '40s (Uncle Dynamite), appeared in film in the 50's (Colditz), was referenced in a Led Zep song (D'yer Mak'er), and even heard in the Cliff Richard film 'The Young Ones'. It spawned a raft of puns with the same format e.g. Indonesia/Jakarta?/no, under her own steam.
The original is a pun, about which it's hard to see how anyone could take offence. It provides the structure for this latest version. There, the joke isn't the pun (somewhat hackneyed after more than 100 years); we're invited to laugh at something else. In terms of offensives, the question is whether the butt of the joke is the deportations, or Tory callousness. To me, it's clearly the latter.
The original is a pun, about which it's hard to see how anyone could take offence. It provides the structure for this latest version. There, the joke isn't the pun (somewhat hackneyed after more than 100 years); we're invited to laugh at something else. In terms of offensives, the question is whether the butt of the joke is the deportations, or Tory callousness. To me, it's clearly the latter.
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Indeed. That's why it works. The joke is that the pun has gone and is replaced by a straight-faced May saying "yes".
Athos
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Yes, quite obviously (to anyone not determined to manufacture outrage, or take offence where none is offered).
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It's now been removed from this thread, but for those who didn't see it, it's also on the bandwidth thread: https://www.urban75.net/forums/thre...andwidthz-pt-5.261392/page-3754#post-15523998
(The link posted on this thread purported to be by the maker of the the meme, and contained a link to a petition. I didn't click on the petition because I don't have Facebook and don't really do petitions, but the vibe was that the person involved disapproved of the situation. Supporting the notion that the joke was against May and her callous disregard for humanity).
(The link posted on this thread purported to be by the maker of the the meme, and contained a link to a petition. I didn't click on the petition because I don't have Facebook and don't really do petitions, but the vibe was that the person involved disapproved of the situation. Supporting the notion that the joke was against May and her callous disregard for humanity).
Yossarian
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The link to the petition is here if anyone needs it:
Petition: Amnesty for anyone who was a minor that arrived In Britain between 1948 to 1971
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
This is precisely the Orwellian nightmare you'd expect from a bureaucratic policy based on quotas.
Which unfortunately brings us back to bloomin Brexit. The sub 100,000 a year could have been hit, could still be hit, but only by massively reducing EU net migration. It's worth pointing out for those who are younger or have short memories that in the 80s and much of the 90s net migration was pretty much zero and in some years negative.
You can plot a pretty good correlation between rising EU migration and how shabbily non EU migrants are treated by the government.
I signed it a couple of days ago, but the only issue I have is with the word 'amnesty'. An amnesty implies you've done wrong and we are going to turn a blind eye. These people have done nothing wrong.
Treacle Toes
Time
If only I were as achingly cool, popular, intelligent, charismatic, interesting, fun loving and humble as you.
What we need is a way of me getting you to check everything I think and feel before I post it.
You are guru-like afterall. Let's make it official.
We can have t-shirts. A simple .design will do. Understated, like you.
They will read 'because andysays'.
Not everyone will agree but that's okay you can just call them a twat and condescendingly accuse them of not understanding.
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Only because the media got hold of the story. If the media fuss hadn't happened, do you think the government would have done diddly squat?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Diddly squat would have been an improvement. This was deliberate tory policy, not something they allowed to happen through sheer negligence.
bimble
floofy
Deliberate policy yes, inevitable consequence of those targets they announced years ago and probably based on the fact that consistently for decades people in this country have said they want fewer immigrants and vote for the politicians who promise this. UK Public Opinion toward Immigration: Overall Attitudes and Level of Concern - Migration Observatory
Athos
Well-Known Member
Not everyone will agree but that's okay you can just call them a twat and condescendingly accuse them of not understanding.
Umm... you didn't understand. You wrongly thought it was a reference to a different joke.
You know it's ok just to say you were wrong, sometimes?
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