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[littlebabyjesus]

We're screwed aren't we?

Who is 'we' in this scenario? Do you want Johnson to be audaciously brilliant in achieving his aims? I don't.

 

[Badgers]

We're screwed aren't we?

100% fucked sorry to say

 

[MickiQ]

I am. I think the EU will blink.

Why? I think they won't but am actually interested in the reasons you believe they might.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't think we'll be giving the likes of them eggs.

Not for very long, obviously

 

[Pickman's model]

We're screwed aren't we?

And not in a good way

 

[Pickman's model]

We're screwed aren't we?

it's the one world-beating thing johnson's done, managing to fuck the entire country without visiting most of it

 

[Pickman's model]

Thing is they are playing a clever game. They have never imposed a deadline so they don't need to blink. Boris can run us over the cliff or negotiations will just continue.

they're not playing a clever game. they're just not playing a really fucking stupid game, which sadly is the only game johnson has

 

[Raheem]

Why? I think they won't but am actually interested in the reasons you believe they might.

Given that the precise dividing lines aren't publicly known, it's probably not going to be possible to spot when one side or the other "blinks", whatever it means in the first place. But, given that the UK started negotiations with the objective of securing "exactly the same benefits" as EU membership, it's going to be a pretty significant exercise in self- delusion to celebrate some marginal gain in mackerel stocks as a hammer-blow against Brussels.

 

[philosophical]

That's a sort of semi-truth that's got confused, If you are a British citizen then absolutely you can come back, however if you are married to a citizen of another EU country then after that date your spouse will be subject to the same immigration laws as any non EU spouse ie the British partner must have an income of greater than £18600 rising by an extra £2400 for any children if they are not dual citizens

Tricky if your only income is the basic state pension.

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[Pickman's model]

except of course our nearest neighbours aren't the french, as illustrated, but the irish.

 

[Raheem]

except of course our nearest neighbours aren't the french, as illustrated, but the irish.

It's actually the Scottish.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's actually the Scottish.

the scottish have the misfortune to be within the united kingdom. the republic of ireland has of course escaped the chains of the foul house of saxe-coburg-gotha

 

[gosub]

Based on Pollys track record we’ll be taking over France and rolling out sterling as the defacto currency of the US by January 2nd

If it doesn't go Macron's way he's got a problem in the Presidental's,,whilst Boris's core support are bunch of 'brace yoursellf Rodney's ", and with either a deal or no deal you most likely get a situation involving boating shennigans as yet to come. Coastal rather tidal Thames this time

 

[Badgers]

Good times for sport ahead too

The Premier League have confirmed new post-Brexit transfer rules.

One of the major changes will mean Premier League teams including Everton and Liverpool cannot sign overseas players under the age of 18 once the United Kingdom officially leaves the European Union at the end of this year.



And clubs will also be restricted to three overseas signings under the age of 21 from January, and only six foreign players per season.

The Football Association, Premier League, EFL have agreed a framework with the Home Office for EU players to move to English football on a points basis decided by a Governing Body Endorsement panel.

 

[Winot]

FT reporting that member states are indeed intervening...

... to warn Barnier against giving away too much.

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[brogdale]

Amidst the doom & gloom, there is at least 1 trade-related thing we can look forward to...

Lawmakers in Taiwan threw pig intestines and punches at each other as a brawl broke out in parliament over a proposal to ease restrictions on pork imports from the United States.
The fight broke out Friday when opposition Kuomintang (KMT) party members threw pig skin and intestines at their fellow lawmakers to stop Premier Su Tseng-chang of the ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) from taking questions, according to the self-ruled island's state broadcaster, Central News Agency. Some members then briefly exchanged blows.

 

[tommers]

FT reporting that member states are indeed intervening...

... to warn Barnier against giving away too much.

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The German car industry will be in touch soon I'm sure checks date

 

[tommers]

Good times for sport ahead too

To be fair that sounds alright.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Amidst the doom & gloom, there is at least 1 trade-related thing we can look forward to...

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The UK will probably have an angry hashtag trending for a day or two before everyone forgets about it, #HormoneHam or something.

 

[ska invita]

To be fair that sounds alright.

agree...is that even anything to do with Brexit? Theres been talk of these kind of modest limits for years - must admit I've never checked to see if they get implemented. Judging by the make up of top teams Im guessing not

 

[tommers]

agree...is that even anything to do with Brexit? Theres been talk of these kind of modest limits for years - must admit I've never checked to see if they get implemented. Judging by the make up of top teams Im guessing not

Imagine it will change so that European players have to get a work permit, same as players from other places in the world do now. Points system.

 

[Badgers]

agree...is that even anything to do with Brexit? Theres been talk of these kind of modest limits for years - must admit I've never checked to see if they get implemented. Judging by the make up of top teams Im guessing not

If it was all European (and UK) clubs then yeah. What it means is big clubs in the EU can scout/buy young players and the UK can't.

A lot more young (16 even) have made PL starts.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Absolutely. If there's one thing we can rely on, it's the audacious brilliance of our political leaders.

I can just imagine being in the trenches, ready to go over the top, with Sergeant Gove telling me to hold my nerve. The hun will blink!. We have them exactly where we want them.

 

[ska invita]

According to the Times

Border ‘catastrophe’ warning over lack of customs agents

Ministers were accused of presiding over a potential “catastrophe” yesterday as it emerged that not enough customs agents had been trained to handle a surge in

www.thetimes.co.uk

Gove says there will be capacity from 1st Jan to process 158 million customs declarations a year, actual number required based on current trading levels is 250 million - a shortfall of 100 million. Woops

 

[tommers]

If it was all European (and UK) clubs then yeah. What it means is big clubs in the EU can scout/buy young players and the UK can't.

A lot more young (16 even) have made PL starts.

Oh, I thought it said that Liverpool and Everton couldn't buy young players.

 

[Badgers]

Oh, I thought it said that Liverpool and Everton couldn't buy young players.

It is hardly a big deal in the Brexit shitfest. I just smiled because a grumpy Brexit voter in my old office said it was nonsense this would happen.

Anyway., back to the bigger fuck ups

 

[Badgers]

According to the Times

Border ‘catastrophe’ warning over lack of customs agents

Ministers were accused of presiding over a potential “catastrophe” yesterday as it emerged that not enough customs agents had been trained to handle a surge in

www.thetimes.co.uk

Gove says there will be capacity from 1st Jan to process 158 million customs declarations a year, actual number required based on current trading levels is 250 million - a shortfall of 100 million. Woops

Anyone get that without a paywall?

 

[Badgers]

Good good

 

[Pickman's model]

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Good good

Viscount ridley?