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Just cannot conceive trying to explain to someone a few years ago we're leaving the EU and we've not actually sorted out what happens afterwards with a month to go.

I don't particularly want to leave the EU but I could accept it if it wasn't all so fucking incompetently arranged and clearly rushed through with no actual objective at the end of it.
If only Labour had supported Brexit.
 
Like whaling in Japan, fishing is a minor part of the big picture but massively symbolic in the EU. I believe the Johnson administration will cave on this.

I think they'll have to, unless they really are mad enough to plunge the country into chaos over an industry that in its entirety is worth less than one single car factory.
 
I am. I think the EU will blink.
Whether they do or not one of the things that grates for me are those elements of continuity remain that just wish the worse. The EU negotiators aren't anti Tory and they wouldn't have welcomed a Labour Government negotiating Brexit either.
 
I think they'll have to, unless they really are mad enough to plunge the country into chaos over an industry that in its entirety is worth less than one single car factory.

You want the EU and their supertrawlers to come in and strip our fish stocks bare in all the waters round our coast? There are few enough fish left as it is.

They are our fish stocks and we should be the ones to strip them bare :mad:
 
I would prefer it if everybody was able to leave the fish alone to be fish.
At least for something like five years for numbers to increase, but in an ideal world forever.
Costal communities would need help and support and subsidy, but then again when the fish run out altogether they're going to need that help then anyway.
There is no such thing as our fish, or their fish, the fish belong to themselves, the unlucky ones are killed by humans a lot of the time.
 
I would prefer it if everybody was able to leave the fish alone to be fish.
At least for something like five years for numbers to increase, but in an ideal world forever.
Costal communities would need help and support and subsidy, but then again when the fish run out altogether they're going to need that help then anyway.
There is no such thing as our fish, or their fish, the fish belong to themselves, the unlucky ones are killed by humans a lot of the time.

I think this is worth looking at, at the moment the ocean is horrifically overfished and really needs a couple of years set aside to recover now and again. We'd all benefit from giving it a fallow year now and again where only very limited fishing took place.

It'd be fucking hard to implement and police but would be worth it.
 
It is one month away and our disgraced government are trying to work out if a scotch egg is a substantial meal.

The EU are quaking at the negotiating table :rolleyes:
 
It is one month away and our disgraced government are trying to work out if a scotch egg is a substantial meal.

The EU are quaking at the negotiating table :rolleyes:
in the south atlantic industrial zone they will find out just how substantial a meal a scotch egg is when they have to make one go among five former people.
 
I would prefer it if everybody was able to leave the fish alone to be fish.
At least for something like five years for numbers to increase, but in an ideal world forever.
Costal communities would need help and support and subsidy, but then again when the fish run out altogether they're going to need that help then anyway.
There is no such thing as our fish, or their fish, the fish belong to themselves, the unlucky ones are killed by humans a lot of the time.
however, no fish is killed by humans more than once
 
Was just told by an Italian friend who is sorting out their status in the UK that if you are a British citizen living in the EU, if you don't come back to the UK by Spring 2022 after that date you will have to do so through the regular points-based, proven-income system. Doesn't sound right to me, would like to know for certain. Anyone know? Favelado?
 
Was just told by an Italian friend who is sorting out their status in the UK that if you are a British citizen living in the EU, if you don't come back to the UK by Spring 2022 after that date you will have to do so through the regular points-based, proven-income system. Doesn't sound right to me, would like to know for certain. Anyone know? Favelado?

That is absolute bullshit
 
Unless a British citizen voluntarily gives up their citizenship because they become a citizen of another country which doesn't allow dual-citizenship (e.g. Spain), then there is no reason why any British citizen would be asked to prove anything upon return to the UK as long as they have a valid passport. This is nonesense.
 
Was just told by an Italian friend who is sorting out their status in the UK that if you are a British citizen living in the EU, if you don't come back to the UK by Spring 2022 after that date you will have to do so through the regular points-based, proven-income system. Doesn't sound right to me, would like to know for certain. Anyone know? Favelado?
That's a sort of semi-truth that's got confused, If you are a British citizen then absolutely you can come back, however if you are married to a citizen of another EU country then after that date your spouse will be subject to the same immigration laws as any non EU spouse ie the British partner must have an income of greater than £18600 rising by an extra £2400 for any children if they are not dual citizens
 
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