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[The39thStep]

 

[TopCat]

They assume anyone listened to the git in the first place.

 

[TopCat]

Lidl being arseholes

Lorry drivers 'boycott' Lidl for being inflexible over staff shortages and delivery delays

Brexit, tax changes and driving test delays have left the UK with a severe driver shortage - and it's impacting retailers in different ways

inews.co.uk

I am doing big late night Lidl shop tomorrow. I will report on shortages.

 

[mojo pixy]

I am doing big late night Lidl shop tomorrow. I will report on shortages.

They're short of at least one vowel in their stupid company name

 

[TopCat]

They're short of at least one vowel in their stupid company name

How dare you. I love Lidl like some adore Waitrose.

 

[mojo pixy]

How dare you. I love Lidl like some adore Waitrose.

I like their stuff, but the name grates every time I read it or hear it. Especially when used as a jokey replacement for 'little'

 

[brogdale]

I love Lidl and I adore Waitrose when there's any yellow labels. Mind you, that goes for any other retail corp as well!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Of course the truck companies say that letting EU drivers back in is the "only" option. They're the fucking bosses, of course they don't want to shell out any more money if they can help it at all.

It estimates a shortage of 90,000 HGV drivers including an estimate 25,000 EU truckers who have gone home following Brexit. On top of that there is a backlog of 25,000 applications for trucker driving licences.

25,000 drivers returned to Europe and 25,000 applications from UK people wanting to become HGV drivers. There's a certain neatness to all this.

 

[Maltin]

25,000 drivers returned to Europe and 25,000 applications from UK people wanting to become HGV drivers. There's a certain neatness to all this.

Except would still leaves a shortage of 65,000 drivers.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Except would still leaves a shortage of 65,000 drivers.

A jobs bonanza.

 

[brogdale]

A jobs bonanza.

A job only exists if an employer can find someone able and willing to do it at the wage offered.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A job only exists if an employer can find someone able and willing to do it at the wage offered.

And if they can't, what options do they have?

 

[Maltin]

I did also read in one of the articles that the driver shortage is acting as a cover for wider supply problems so even if they did miraculously manage to fill 90,000 jobs quickly, product shortages would still likely continue.

 

[Maltin]

And if they can't, what options do they have?

We all starve?

 

[brogdale]

And if they can't, what options do they have?

Re-invest accumulated profit into paying for training, raising wages, lobbying the 'government' for some exemption like the fruit farmers, downsize their business, sell-up, go bust....but I'm no expert on these matters.

 

[Flavour]

Should I move back to the UK and become a truck driver? sort of tempting tbh

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

The problem for most people wishing to become truck drivers is the cost. To get licensed for class one and two usually requires taking out a mahoosive loan if you haven’t got a lot of savings. Then there has been the problem of getting work to pay back the cost - companies in the past often stipulated “experienced drivers only” . People used to join the forces to get logistics licences and experience in the past. Another route was auxiliary fire service work (which people in e.g. mining industry used to do to get licensed so they could move into transport industry). I understand the situation is a little better now because of the shortage of drivers, but some companies still put obstacles in the way of the newly qualified.
Don’t get me started on how the UK Govt and local authorities treat drivers as regards parking up, facilities etc, or the crap terms and conditions in parts of the transport industry with lower levels of union organising......

 

[brogdale]

The problem for most people wishing to become truck drivers is the cost. To get licensed for class one and two usually requires taking out a mahoosive loan if you haven’t got a lot of savings. Then there has been the problem of getting work to pay back the cost - companies in the past often stipulated “experienced drivers only” . People used to join the forces to get logistics licences and experience in the past. Another route was auxiliary fire service work (which people in e.g. mining industry used to do to get licensed so they could move into transport industry). I understand the situation is a little better now because of the shortage of drivers, but some companies still put obstacles in the way of the newly qualified.
Don’t get me started on how the UK Govt and local authorities treat drivers as regards parking up, facilities etc, or the crap terms and conditions in parts of the transport industry with lower levels of union organising......

Yep, when capital shirks the costs of training its own workers it can't really complain when people decline the opportunity to subside their bottom line.

 

[brogdale]

Running rings around the desperate Lewis, Frost & co.

 

[Yossarian]

Of course the truck companies say that letting EU drivers back in is the "only" option. They're the fucking bosses, of course they don't want to shell out any more money if they can help it at all.

Yep, treating the EU as the solution to all Britain's problems is as dumb as treating it like the underlying cause - there was a massive driver shortage both in the UK and EU countries years before Brexit and COVID. They could maybe fix it with a massive investment in attracting more young people and women to the profession and improving pay, conditions, facilities, etc., but they'll probably just spend the money investing in self-driving trucks instead.

 

[editor]

What could possibly go wrong?

UK says it wants to substantially rewrite Northern Ireland Brexit protocol

Blueprint for alternative arrangement published as sources say protocol was flawed at conception

www.theguardian.com

 

[The39thStep]

Running rings around the desperate Lewis, Frost & co.

Well talk loud and carry a big stick until the inevitable EU fudge as they have done with every ‘crisis’ in implementing the Brexit agreement .

 

[TopCat]

I like their stuff, but the name grates every time I read it or hear it. Especially when used as a jokey replacement for 'little'

Just rid your life of people who do the latter.

 

[brogdale]

Well talk loud and carry a big stick until the inevitable EU fudge as they have done with every ‘crisis’ in implementing the Brexit agreement .

Today's line from the supra state is that the fudge can only been made within the red lines of the agreed international treaty.
Can't see why they'd say anything other than that to the blustercunts.

 

[andysays]

Just had my bi-weekly Sainsburys delivery, and one of my regular boxes of Belvita Breakfast Biscuits was unavailable and has been substituted with a box of a different flavour of biscuits

#Brexitageddon

 

[two sheds]

Just rid your life of people who do the latter.

ladr

 

[glitch hiker]

What could possibly go wrong?

UK says it wants to substantially rewrite Northern Ireland Brexit protocol

Blueprint for alternative arrangement published as sources say protocol was flawed at conception

www.theguardian.com

Uk wants to farm unicorns

 

[mojo pixy]

Just rid your life of people who do the latter.

But Lidl do it themselves
It's more than a lidl annoying

 

[editor]

Well, this is awkward:

The EU Commission president tweeted: “Boris Johnson called to present the UK Command paper on the Irish/Northern Irish Protocol. The EU will continue to be creative and flexible within the Protocol framework. But we will not renegotiate.”

EU will not renegotiate Northern Ireland Protocol – follow Brexit live

Follow the latest updates from Westminster and beyond

www.independent.co.uk

And then there's this:

Recruiters say they have watched the number of available workers dry up because of restrictions on free movement imposed under the UK Government’s Brexit plans.

One said they had seen nothing like it in two decades, while another said some sectors were suffering more than others.

Nationally there has already been a big shortage of HGV drivers – partly due to European drivers heading home during the pandemic and now feeling that Brexit will make their return harder.

Recruitment firms: ‘EU workers have left and aren’t returning'

Warnings include suggestions that 60 per cent of vegetable packers have said they’re leaving or left

www.business-live.co.uk

 

[TopCat]

Tesco put their hand in their pocket to recruit lorry drivers. Excellent news and I hope it becomes a sector norm.

Tesco offers lorry drivers £1,000 signing-on fee due to shortage

The effects of Brexit, Covid and tax changes have led to competition for workers between UK supermarkets

www.theguardian.com