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[krtek a houby]

When I said there were no petit pois in Sainsbury's a few weeks ago I also said there were no peas of any sort or frozen beans for that matter.

Nobody really eats them, anyway. No big loss.

 

[spitfire]

Nobody really eats them, anyway. No big loss.

Nobody does anymore that's for sure.

 

[spitfire]

My Sainsbury's delivery just arrived sans petits pois. I remonstrated with the young man and expressed my displeasure.

He said, "fuck off you middle class tiny pea eating cunt."

I laughed, he laughed, we all went down the pub for a pint of rosie lea.

I can also confirm that there is no shortage of Peroni and 6 bottles (large) of MC Stella currently in the fridge to help me through the rest of my isolation.

Saluti!

 

[editor]

Brexit continues to deliver:

Over half of British haulage firms have already made or are considering moving some operations into the EU due to a "perfect storm" of post-Brexit red tape impacts and driver shortages still hitting the sector, a new report has found.
Haulage Exchange, a company that provides technology for the logistics industry, polled management at 16 of the UK's largest haulage companies with operations in Europe.
The survey revealed that ongoing border delays, driver shortages, and increased admin time and costs are all major challenges being faced by firms in the sector.

Of trucking leaders surveyed, 81% said they have experienced increased border waiting times and 69% said they now spend more time doing admin before crossing into the EU than pre-Brexit. Just 6% of companies said they had seen no impact on their business since Brexit on 1 January.

The study stated that in what represents "a potentially seismic shift", a total of 56% of haulage companies surveyed said they had already moved some operations to the EU, or would consider it in the future.

Over half UK hauliers considering EU ops move post-Brexit, study finds

Haulage Exchange, a company that provides technology for the logistics industry, polled management at 16 of the UK's largest haulage companies for the report

www.standard.co.uk

 

[TopCat]

I dug for victory and grew my own peas.

 

[Loose meat]

ah yes: "considering moving". Them and the bankers.

"some operations" - might that be the £10 an hour cross-channel jobbies those guys with a tractor license in Bulgaria are up for (minimum wage, about £3.40 now?)

 

[andysays]

I dug for victory and grew my own peas.

Now that's what I call creative

 

[Spymaster]

Regarding the coat from Canada. Yes the duty is clearly due to Brexit. Both the courier and the supplier are explicitly saying both the delays and the import charges are due to Brexit and with the supply chain involving shipment via Frankfurt and Cologne there is a plausible reason for it to be related to Brexit.

Why do you not believe this? Why do you think being charged import duty on a coat is normal. It is not and eventually the supplier Arcteryx did actually refund the import duties. Why would they do that if its just normal?

I suppose the next thing is that you will have to accept that you were wrong it is due to Brexit but then go on to just echo the government's line that it is just "teething troubles".

Good news!

I received this from Arc'teryx this morning.



It's a jacket, purchased on their website and, as you can see, shipped from Germany via UPS.

The delivery bloke just asked me to sign his machine, wished me good day, and I wasn't asked for a penny more in duty.

It also arrived just 3 working days after I ordered it.

Weird eh?

 

[editor]

Some interesting stuff here

“No-one on Earth” knows whether Brexit was a good idea for Britain, the driving force behind the Vote Leave campaign has admitted.

Dominic Cummings, who went on to mastermind Boris Johnson’s election victory on a “get Brexit done” platform, said that he personally regards EU withdrawal as “a good thing” but admitted it could have been “a mistake”.

What about Vote Leave lawbreaking?​

Thread here from Carole Cadwalladr from The Observer asking how Cummings was able to make it all the way through the hour-long interview with Laura Kuenssberg without being asked about illegal spending by Vote Leave during the Brexit campaign.
The leave campaign, which Cummings was at the reins of, was found to have broken legal spending limits by donating several hundreds of thousands of pounds to an affiliate pro-Brexit group days before the EU referendum in 2016.
Ms Cadwalladr helped expose the law-breaking, which led to the Vote Leave campaign being fined £61,000 by the Electoral Commission

Dominic Cummings admits Brexit may have been ‘mistake’ - follow live

Follow the latest updates from Westminster and beyond

www.independent.co.uk

And the clusterfucks continue:

UK sets collision course with EU under plans to redraw Brexit deal​

The UK will on Wednesday put itself on a collision course with Brussels by unveiling a new set of demands that would radically overhaul post-Brexit trading arrangements between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. In a move that officials called a “wholesale change of approach”, Lord David Frost, Cabinet Office minister, will outline a strategy that seeks to eliminate most of the checks on the Irish Sea trade border that came into force in January. And in a warning that Britain could suspend the Northern Ireland protocol in its Brexit deal with the EU if the bloc does not give way, Frost will claim the UK is already within its rights to activate the Article 16 override clause in the agreement.

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www.ft.com

Brexit row over Gibraltar escalates as UK accuses EU of undermining British sovereignty

Rocky start to talks amid concerns Spain wants to extend sovereignty over territory

www.independent.co.uk

 

[editor]

The reason for the shortage of HGV drivers, according to the Guardian:

They say the shortage of drivers can only be fixed if EU drivers are allowed back in the country. It estimates a shortage of 90,000 HGV drivers including an estimate 25,000 EU truckers who have gone home following Brexit. On top of that there is a backlog of 25,000 applications for trucker driving licences.

HGV licence fast-track won’t stop UK food shortages, industry warns | Transport policy | The Guardian

 

[MrSki]

An interesting twitter account to follow regarding food distribution.

 

[Chilli.s]

Several nasty lorry accidents on motorways in the last couple of weeks, got to wonder what the circumstances were regarding them. very dangerous for everybody

 

[Loose meat]

The joy of empty claims on the internet; 14 hours drivig becomes 9 1/2 in two tweets.

 

[MrSki]

The joy of empty claims on the internet; 14 hours drivig becomes 9 1/2 in two tweets.

A 14 hour shift. In case you didn't know lorry drivers are limited in the hours they are legally allowed to drive for safety reasons. This has been extended to help with the shortage which might not be a good idea if accidents increase.

 

[Loose meat]

I know exactly what he was doing, and once the dumb fool realised his claim was illegal he withdrew it. Totally internet.

 

[Loose meat]

doubley

 

[Chilli.s]

Lorry driver hours have been de restricted. So now a 14 hour shift is not illegal.

 

[existentialist]

I know exactly what he was doing, and once the dumb fool realised his claim was illegal he withdrew it. Totally internet.

I don't know if you're trying to come over as an agenda-driven, inflexible cunt, but if you are, you're doing a fine job of it. If you're not, then I would suggest suing your keyboard for defamation.

 

[Chilli.s]

Hear that noise? that's the sound of someone doing their own research

 

[Loose meat]

Please 'like' the above insights. Let's get these valued contributors off to a flying start today.

 

[Spymaster]

I don't know if you're trying to come over as an agenda-driven, inflexible cunt, but if you are, you're doing a fine job of it.

He’s hardly the only one!

 

[two sheds]

Aww nobody liking your posts Loose meat ? Diddums

 

[Loose meat]

Lorry driver hours have been de restricted. So now a 14 hour shift is not illegal.

Well this is a cracker. Are you sure it's not 20 hours shifts? Maybe it is, maybe the whole country is at risk from zombie death drivers. I'm sure the folks here will have all the detail-free internet anecdotes.

 

[existentialist]

He’s hardly the only one!

No, he's not. But he's a bit more simplistic, transparent, and easily caught out than most...

 

[TopCat]

Loosening drivers hours regs is a very big risk.

 

[MrSki]

 

[NoXion]

The reason for the shortage of HGV drivers, according to the Guardian:


HGV licence fast-track won’t stop UK food shortages, industry warns | Transport policy | The Guardian

Of course the truck companies say that letting EU drivers back in is the "only" option. They're the fucking bosses, of course they don't want to shell out any more money if they can help it at all.

 

[editor]

Lidl being arseholes

Lidl shoppers could feel the effects of the country’s lorry driver shortage more than most this week because of a “boycott” by haulage firms.

The UK is experiencing a severe shortage of HGV drivers with Brexit, changes to the tax system and a large backlog of driving tests caused by the pandemic contributing to an estimated shortfall of 100,000.

This is having an impact on the UK’s food supply chain, as haulage firms and suppliers struggle to secure enough delivery drivers to transport produce to supermarket depots and wholesalers.

Now, in what other supermarket chains will regard as a warning shot, some of the country’s biggest haulage firms are reportedly refusing to deliver to Lidl because of the retailer’s perceived “inflexibility” during the crisis.

“There’s a bit of a boycott against delivering to Lidl because they’re being inflexible and not listening to what’s going on,” a director at one haulage company told industry publication The Grocer.

“If you prioritise who you want to [deliver to] and who you don’t, then Lidl always falls at the bottom of the list.”

A major sticking point among hauliers is Lidl’s alleged refusal to temporarily soften its policies surrounding late deliveries while the shortage of drivers is so acute. While some retailers are taking a more flexible approach toward late deliveries, Lidl is said to be outright rejecting loads from drivers who arrive after their allotted time slot.

Lorry drivers 'boycott' Lidl for being inflexible over staff shortages and delivery delays

Brexit, tax changes and driving test delays have left the UK with a severe driver shortage - and it's impacting retailers in different ways

inews.co.uk

 

[krtek a houby]

Please 'like' the above insights. Let's get these valued contributors off to a flying start today.

You seem overly concerned with "likes".

Are you feeling undervalued?

 

[krtek a houby]

Hear that noise? that's the sound of someone doing their own research

It's the sound of notes being shuffled