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[SpookyFrank]

I have heard all their chocolate is like that.

The chocolate is bizarrely awful. They must put diesel in it or something.

 

[kabbes]

Not true. Grass fed beef is more nutritious.

Seriously people are downplaying this?

There is this perception that there are (a) problems with nutrition in the US that (b) are derived from what is sold there.

In truth, there is a massive gamut of food sold in the US. The problems with the nutrition are derived from social factors rather than food production.

 

[TopCat]

What do we import from the US now? I can’t think of a single made thing I have owned with made in USA on it. Not in a half century.

 

[platinumsage]

Not true. Grass fed beef is more nutritious.

Seriously people are downplaying this?

The reduced nutrition in beef used to make a grass-fed frankfurter is not going to make a difference to anyone's health.

 

[teuchter]

Most of the US dodgy ingredients will remain illegal and it won't make economic sense to import the US version, so we won't stuff like this changing:

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Meat in processed/preserved products is one thing that might be sourced from the US, but I doubt there will any health implications because tinned frankfurters or whatever are already unhealthy so the fact their cows didn't see much grass isn't going to make any difference.

I note that graphic is from Food Babe so I'm going assume it's probably all nonsense.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It was way, way cheaper than UK supermarkets too.

Ok that's a thing I don't know about. Hopefully stuff is improving in the US.

 

[TopCat]

The chocolate is bizarrely awful. They must put diesel in it or something.

Diesel would cost money. It will be a by product of the petrochemical industry that otherwise would cost a fortune to dump.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Isn't all the US stuff still mostly made with High Fructose Corn Syrup?

 

[kabbes]

Ok that's a thing I don't know about. Hopefully stuff is improving in the US.

They still had awful, terrible plastic cheese, mind.

 

[kabbes]

Isn't all the US stuff still mostly made with High Fructose Corn Syrup?

What, their fruit and veg?

 

[platinumsage]

It’s more the medications given to US animals and subsequent residues in the meat.

We're not going to be importing Texan 72-ounce steaks that people are going to eat every week. The quantities involved are not going to be sufficient for what the cows were given to make any difference to anyone.

 

[The39thStep]

We already have American puke-flavour 'chocolate' and crappy biscuits. Not long till the Twinkies and 5lb sacks of crisps arrive.

More seriously, food quality is a class issue and always has been. Since when did the poor ever get to eat as well as the rich, even as members of the EU?

Check the price, then check the ingredients, is how it goes for most people and no doubt always has. I'm not sure stuff from the US is going to be worse than what already gets sold as 'economy' and 'savers' range stuff.

Very dangerous to bring the idea of class onto this website , no doubt we'll have examples of people on UC eating pheasant and pommegranite due to the EU as if it were some impossible dream for the masses.

 

[platinumsage]

I note that graphic is from Food Babe so I'm going assume it's probably all nonsense.

Feel free to look up the ingredients yourself, it's not difficult.

 

[Flavour]

It won’t be helpfully labelled ‘this is cheaper but it’s got health risks’ will it.

I think people generally know that cheaper means poorer quality.

That's always been the argument used by those who want to get rid of cheapo crap. Forgetting that loads of people are skint and can't afford good quality food. Or that they don't care, which is not a choice to eat poor food, just lack of awareness.

I think it's possible not to eat ultra processed shit without breaking the bank. Like you say it's a question of caring - and it's not going to go very well if we give the State the responsibility for raising awareness is it. We have to do it ourselves

 

[TopCat]

Gold, airoplanes and ‘tree nuts’ apparently.

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We can source gold elsewhere. Tree nuts? Are they like winnips?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

US chocolate is bogging, European biscuits are shite an’all.

 

[bimble]

They still had awful, terrible plastic cheese, mind.

Do you know about the American socialist cheese mountain?
One of my favourite things I recently learnt about. I think it explains their cheese problem.

Government cheese - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The39thStep]

I have heard all their chocolate is like that.

I do like those peanut butter Reese's

 

[Pickman's model]

What do we import from the US now? I can’t think of a single made thing I have owned with made in USA on it. Not in a half century.

Books. I have lots of books published and printed in america

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Very dangerous to bring the idea of class onto this website , no doubt we'll have examples of people on UC eating pheasant and pommegranite due to the EU as if it were some impossible dream for the masses.

Of course this is a class issue among other things. We've had big discussions on here about things like food deserts. Doesn't mean lowering standards to US levels is anything other than a terrible idea.

 

[kabbes]

Do you know about the American socialist cheese mountain?
One of my favourite things I recently learnt about. I think it explains their cheese problem.

Government cheese - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That’s fantastic.

 

[TopCat]

Books. I have lots of books published and printed in america

Fair do’s so do I.

 

[TopCat]

I do like those peanut butter Reese's

The long lasting peanut butter cup cake? I look at them and shudder.

 

[The39thStep]

Of course this is a class issue among other things. We've had big discussions on here about things like food deserts. Doesn't mean lowering standards to US levels is anything other than a terrible idea.

I expect to see Waitrose shoppers boycotting US imports

 

[Pickman's model]

I have never kissed a Tory nor eaten a Twinkie.

Proud boasts both

 

[The39thStep]

The long lasting peanut butter cup cake? I look at them and shudder.

Cant get enough of them, always stock up before I fly back here

 

[TopCat]

I can get a whole fresh chicken in Asda for about a quid. I can’t see the US trying to compete in this market.
Maybe they will force high quality crime fiction novels on us.

 

[mojo pixy]

I have never kissed a Tory nor eaten a Twinkie.

I have done both, but only from reckless youthful experimentation. Like those times I smoked crack.

 

[TopCat]

Cant get enough of them, always stock up before I fly back here

I will help my local community by emptying the shelves in the local offie of this just wrong snack and sending them over to you.

They will survive any Brexit related delay. Probably would survive the apocalypse.

 

[mojo pixy]

Some of my favourite music is american btw.

A lot, now I think of it.