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You seem to want society awash with AR15s and don't seem to give a damn about the consequences. Am I right ?
I am actually jealous of people living in England. They have eminently sensible gun laws. Hopefully we will have those in the US one day. It's one of the reasons I am praying for a President Harris who is excellent on this issue.
I'm going to take a wild punt on no, no you're not. HTH.
 
But then theres georgia PolitiFact - Georgia bill would ban giving food, water to voters in line


Its lines long enough to need food and water that's the problem. The food and water thing is a distraction from the what the GOP is really doing here and that's throwing people off the voting rolls, making it so difficult to vote (or get the ID to vote) that many can't or won't be able to jump through the hoops. Its raw voter suppression.
 
If you do I wish you'd show it instead of saying 'all these possibilities will bring a concrete reality', building castles in the sky

You seem to want the American Left to embrace support for gun ownership and to oppose stricter gun legislation (from your safe European home) and you accuse me of building castles in the Sky ! Walk into any Left wing, Democrat or DSA meeting or forum and you'll find people are much closer to my position than yours....you may get a hearing with the Proud Boys on the other hand.
The Democrats have a clear political strategy going forward, have built a successful electoral coalition and an expanding Base, and sadly for the Right (and infantile Ultra Left/Anarchos) we're winning.
 
Its lines long enough to need food and water that's the problem. The food and water thing is a distraction from the what the GOP is really doing here and that's throwing people off the voting rolls, making it so difficult to vote (or get the ID to vote) that many can't or won't be able to jump through the hoops. Its raw voter suppression.
It's Jim Crow racism and blatant voter suppression of African Americans. It will be resisted and will go to Court. Already pressure is being put on big Georgia based Corporations and they are folding and issuing statements opposing it. The move of the MLB All star game from Atlanta is a big deal and historic. Try as they might the Republicans can slow but not ultimately stop Georgia's transition to a Blue State, ditto Texas.
 
You seem to want the American Left to embrace support for gun ownership and to oppose stricter gun legislation (from your safe European home) and you accuse me of building castles in the Sky ! Walk into any Left wing, Democrat or DSA meeting or forum and you'll find people are much closer to my position than yours....you may get a hearing with the Proud Boys on the other hand.
The Democrats have a clear political strategy going forward, have built a successful electoral coalition and an expanding Base, and sadly for the Right (and infantile Ultra Left/Anarchos) we're winning.
I haven't said anything about what I want the American left to do. So it's disappointing but not surprising to see you once again invent views for me. I think you're talking bollocks about the democrats clear political strategy, their successful electoral coalition (let's see how that holds up without trump, their greatest asset), and expanding base. You're not winning, if you were then surely that'd be reflected in the senate where I understand the chamber is split almost exactly 50:50.

If there was a chance to win your objective it was immediately after sandy hook. And nothing happened. It won't happen now. You'd need such an electoral shift to happen it's almost unthinkable. Maybe years down the line. But certainly not in the current Congress and certainly not under this administration.
 
I haven't said anything about what I want the American left to do. So it's disappointing but not surprising to see you once again invent views for me. I think you're talking bollocks about the democrats clear political strategy, their successful electoral coalition (let's see how that holds up without trump, their greatest asset), and expanding base. You're not winning, if you were then surely that'd be reflected in the senate where I understand the chamber is split almost exactly 50:50.

If there was a chance to win your objective it was immediately after sandy hook. And nothing happened. It won't happen now. You'd need such an electoral shift to happen it's almost unthinkable. Maybe years down the line. But certainly not in the current Congress and certainly not under this administration.
You accuse me of not caring about mass shootings that didn't involve schools so you're a fine one to talk about inventing other people's views. Also you liked an earlier post (#1860) from some bozo who suggested that every one should have an AR15 (!!!) as it would somehow make society safer. That is literally the far right's argument.

Also you have this idea that the current 50:50 electoral split in the Senate cannot change. It can and the best left wing elements in America are working to change that. Anyone who thinks it is unthinkable is clueless about American politics and the changes in American society.
 
You accuse me of not caring about mass shootings that didn't involve schools so you're a fine one to talk about inventing other people's views. Also you liked an earlier post (#1860) from some bozo who suggested that every one should have an AR15 (!!!) as it would somehow make society safer. That is literally the far right's argument.
you are on record as saying all you want is to prevent more sandy hooks. Not more las vegases. Not more mass shootings in churches. Not more mass shootings on army bases or uni campuses. All you want, you said, is to prevent more sandy hooks. So either you were lying then or you're lying now but by god there's some lying going on in your posts. As for my liking posts, so what? You've liked posts which aren't entirely complimentary to you so I suggest you should stop looking at likes.
 
Also you have this idea that the current 50:50 electoral split in the Senate cannot change. It can and the best left wing elements in America are working to change that. Anyone who thinks it is unthinkable is clueless about American politics and the changes in American society.
no I do not have this idea that the current split in the senate cannot change. It has of course changed earlier this year in the democrats' favour. But it won't change immediately, there's a third of the senate seats being contested next year. The best efforts of the best lw elements in America can't change tho that there is a great divide in American society between the major parties. And there's been many years of voter suppression and frank gerrymandering and call me a cynic but that won't all be overturned next year.
 
Something going down in Indianapolis

 
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Fucking guns:

The Gun Violence Archive puts the number of gun violence deaths from all causes at 12,395 so far this year in the US, of which 147 were in mass shootings. Last year saw a total of 43.549 deaths, and 610 in mass shootings.

And the cops are doing their bit as well. The kid was 13 FFS

 
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Or just get rid of the fucking guns.

 

The US has seen at least 147 mass shootings in 2021, according to data from the GVA, a non-profit based in Washington.

CNN considers an incident to be a mass shooting if four or more people are shot, wounded, or killed, excluding the gunman; so does the GVA.

There is a list of them on the link.
 
Fucking obscene

At least nine children were wounded in a shooting on Saturday, at a birthday party in Louisiana after a verbal duel between two groups of young boys, the police have said. Two out of nine are still in hospital on Monday while the rest were treated and released.

The birthday party of a 12-year old at Golfview Drive in LaPlace, Louisiana was taking place in a garage when neighbours heard gunshots around 8:30 p.m. on Saturday. The authorities have said that more than one weapon was used.


Eight of the nine victims were all boys between the ages of 12 to 17. The two, aged 14 and 16, still undergoing treatment at a hospital were shot in the head and stomach respectively. Doctors have said that they are in stable condition, St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office confirmed.
 
Another piece of shit in action

A gunman shot dead six people and then himself at a birthday party in Colorado Springs on Sunday, US police said.
The shootings took place at a mobile home park where families had gathered in one trailer to celebrate.
"The suspect, a boyfriend of one of the female victims, drove to the residence, walked inside and began shooting people at the party before taking his own life," the Colorado Springs Police Department said.


 
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