teqniq
DisMembered
Fucking deluded more like.I think he's sweet in an 'awwww bless' sort of way
The American mass shooting thread
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Cheers Yoss
1 U.S. Capitol Police Officer Killed, Another Injured After Man Rams Vehicle Into Security Barricade, Suspect Also Killed
One U.S. Capitol police officer was killed and another officer was injured after a man rammed his vehicle into a barricade on the north side of the Capitol building Friday afternoon in Washington D.C.
baltimore.cbslocal.com
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that boat has long departed, but i'm intrigued that all the non-school mass shootings are fine with you
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
No. I am not fine with non-school mass shootings. Where did I insinuate I was?
I want to ban guns and confiscate those already in circulation to prevent the number of shootings.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
when you said that the totality of your interest was to prevent shootings in primary schools.
yeh i see you're firmly of the let's use a sticking plaster on a gaping wound school of thought. it'd be a much better idea to do something about the inequality which runs through american society but you won't ever say that. there are other countries which have high levels of gun ownership but low levels of killings with guns - the guns themselves aren't the problem, they're only a symptom. the killings aren't the problem, again they're only a symptom. by addressing the underlying causes of gun killings, and only by addressing the underlying causes, will any resolution be reached. and as for banning guns and confiscating those in circulation, that is never going to happen. never.
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
I live in America. Do you? America isn't Switzerland or Finland. Quoting high gun ownership figures in utterly different societies and cultures won't cut it. Stating that (to paraphrase Bill Hicks) "There is no connection between owning a gun and shooting somebody with it" is literally an NRA position and a logical fallacy
I get it...you like guns and wish that you could run around the woods going "Pew Pew" like the Socialist Rifle Association. I have never seen the appeal personally but we're all different. I am more concerned with lessening the amount of gun deaths in the country that I live in. Gun control will do that. That is a lesson from other countries and with the Democrats in power for at least the next 8 years we may finally get it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
if you think that living in america somehow makes you right on this (or any other) point and me wrong then you're really really stupid. either engage with my point or stfu about it. there is of course a connection between owning a rifle or a pistol and shooting someone with it. but the connection isn't the simple fact of possession, it is having a motive to use it - the famous trio of means, motive and opportunity. i have pointed you to a connection above but you don't seem to have the wherewithal to engage with it, hence your arsewipe of a post quoted.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Cheers Yoss
1 U.S. Capitol Police Officer Killed, Another Injured After Man Rams Vehicle Into Security Barricade, Suspect Also Killed
One U.S. Capitol police officer was killed and another officer was injured after a man rammed his vehicle into a barricade on the north side of the Capitol building Friday afternoon in Washington D.C.
They're reporting now that the suspect died and one of the capital police died.
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Being a capital cop is becoming a high risk profession. They've had two die in the line of duty since Jan 1, another two commit suicide soon after Jan 6, and more than a hundred injured. This is out of a force of 2000. I think we can safely add most of those to Donald Trump's body count, as well as the civilians killed on Jan 6.
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You know that the breadbasket is in the flyover states?
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
You seem to want society awash with AR15s and don't seem to give a damn about the consequences. Am I right ?
I am actually jealous of people living in England. They have eminently sensible gun laws. Hopefully we will have those in the US one day. It's one of the reasons I am praying for a President Harris who is excellent on this issue.
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
You mean 'asswipe' surely?
Thoughts and prayers eh? Why am I not surprised.
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
Thankfully corn can't vote....although we shouldn't give the Republicans ideas
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
I am against the thoughts and prayers crap after each mass shooting. I am for robust gun control as a response...unlike many on here
Cloo
Banana for scale
Perpetrator is white, then
US Capitol: Police officer dies after car rams security barrier
The driver of the vehicle was shot dead by police after lunging at officers with a knife.
www.bbc.co.uk
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Shifting demographics did not prevent the likes of Trump from becoming President. This kind of complacency is dangerous.
"Contain them in the fly over States"? I'm sure all the decent folks living in those places are going to be so chuffed to have their own backyards designated as a nutcase holding pen.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You're wrong. The thing is, you will never see guns controlled as you desire. If it didn't happen after sandy hook it won't happen now. The second amendment stands no chance of repeal and the democrats don't have the votes in the senate to give a figleaf of across the board legitimacy to any attempts to abridge the right to bear arms.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Never say never
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
You seem to think things are set in stone over here. That's not very materialist.
We are working to change the Electoral make up . Loads of fantastic ideas out there like DC and Puerto Rico statehood, ending the filibuster, increasing the number of Supreme Court judges and turning Texas Purple. The demographics are clearly in the Left's favor. All of that will lead to progressive change. Even if the 2nd Amendment is still on the statute books but it's the interpretation of it by the Supreme Court that counts (I am literally in favor of it meaning access to single shot flint lock muskets).
Also there is lots of Congress can do like an Assault weapons ban (as was done in the 1990s).
PaulOK
Robin DiAngelo is my co-pilot
Nation of Islam supporter supposedlyPerpetrator is white, then
US Capitol: Police officer dies after car rams security barrier
The driver of the vehicle was shot dead by police after lunging at officers with a knife.www.bbc.co.uk
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You seem hell-bent on making me think you're stupid. I do wish you'd stop doing that. I've given you no cause to say I'm a socialist, I've given you no cause to say I think things are set in stone in the United States and yet you come out with these things. Progressive change doesn't simply happen, people have to really work towards it. And as you know now progress is not irreversible. I anticipate that legislators will look at the results of the 2020 election and take from it the lesson that GC will be hugely ptroblematic, that a vast number of people will oppose it. And it'll slip down the legislative list or be so watered down as to be meaningless. Maybe you're right. Maybe you do know better than me how things are over there. If you do I wish you'd show it instead of saying 'all these possibilities will bring a concrete reality', building castles in the sky
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Oh my fucking god. Are they still wittering on about demographics? After Trump? Do they really think that the Republicans won't ever change their own strategies in response to demographic shifts? If Nixon with his "Southern Strategy" can leave a lasting impression on the political character and direction of the Republican party, then it's totally plausible another Republican figure in the future will implement a new strategy that will keep their party electorally competitive.
Don't even bother trying to tell me that the Republicans won't ever change. Billions of dollars and political hegemony are at stake. A not-insignificant chunk of Republicans and their supporters consider Democrats to be an existential threat, red-baiting (not baseball) is the American national sport and an evergreen rallying cry for reactionaries, and passively relying on shifting demographics to confound Republican political ambitions will only lead to disaster. You might not think much of the intelligence and wisdom of the average Republican voter, but never forget that Republicans have their own think tanks and strategists who can definitely see the writing on the wall, and who will work hard to provide intellectual legitimacy even to the likes of Trumpism, as hard to believe as you may find that. In short, they're not fucking stupid and can see what's coming.
Don't even bother trying to tell me that the Republicans won't ever change. Billions of dollars and political hegemony are at stake. A not-insignificant chunk of Republicans and their supporters consider Democrats to be an existential threat, red-baiting (not baseball) is the American national sport and an evergreen rallying cry for reactionaries, and passively relying on shifting demographics to confound Republican political ambitions will only lead to disaster. You might not think much of the intelligence and wisdom of the average Republican voter, but never forget that Republicans have their own think tanks and strategists who can definitely see the writing on the wall, and who will work hard to provide intellectual legitimacy even to the likes of Trumpism, as hard to believe as you may find that. In short, they're not fucking stupid and can see what's coming.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
But then theres georgia PolitiFact - Georgia bill would ban giving food, water to voters in line
www.npr.org
Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? Too Few Polling Places
The state's voter rolls have grown by nearly 2 million since the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, but polling locations have been cut by almost 10%.
www.npr.org
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