The American mass shooting thread

[Ax^]

About Dan Roberts


Dan Roberts is a grassroots supporter of gun rights that has chosen AmmoLand Shooting Sports News as the perfect outlet for his insightful articles on Guns and Gun Owner Rights.

you dumb cunt these are the wankers trying to find excuses aside from gun control

 

[Mumbles274]

I know who my money is on getting banned squirrelp

Can i be reported for abuse?


Fuck off you stupid conspiraloon cunt

Read the board FAQ!!!

 

[squirrelp]

We can add: Dylann Roof (Charleston mass shooting) - Suboxone

 

[Saul Goodman]

We can add: Dylann Roof (Charleston mass shooting) - Suboxone

Fuck off and die, you conspiraloon cunt!

 

[Spymaster]

Fuck off and die, you conspiraloon cunt!

Ffs. Seriously?

 

[Saul Goodman]

Ffs. Seriously?

Yes, seriously.
Cunts like him destroy people's lives.

 

[existentialist]

I have reported this post for abuse. I am tired of your highly abusive personal attacks coupled with appeals that I should be the one censored because of your reactions. If you dramatically freak out because you've come across a viewpoint challenging to your belief system that is really your issue not mine.

The evidence is clear - take any of these mass shootings and I will show you a shooter who was on psychotropic medication.

Yes, you can say that a great many people take antidepressants and are never violent as a result, but one can equally say that the vast majority of gun owners do so safely and would never shoot up dozens of people randomly.

https://health.usnews.com/health-ne...s-take-more-psychotropic-drugs-than-europeans

Bless.

 

[existentialist]

Here is a list: apologies for the C&P, but it was very much requested

• Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
• Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
• Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
• Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
• Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
• Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
• Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
• Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
• A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
• Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
• A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
• Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
• TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
• Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
• James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
• Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
• Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
• Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
• Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
• Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
• Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
• Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
• Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
• Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
• Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
• Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
• Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
• Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
• Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
• Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
• Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
• A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
• Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
• Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
• Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
• Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
• Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
• Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common (and it isn’t guns)

Fuck off, squirrelp

 

[existentialist]

Oh, and the pearl clutching was also entirely predictable.

 

[squirrelp]

Oh, and the pearl clutching was also entirely predictable.

It's the evidence you were requesting.

Here's perhaps a better link devoted to school shootings. We can add Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) - Celexa

School shootings – Psych Drug Shooters

 

[existentialist]

Here is a list: apologies for the C&P, but it was very much requested

Let me - temporarily - suspend my sweary onslaught upon you to enquire as to who has requested this farrago of testicular nonsense?

Because I have seen no-one on this thread saying "Oh, please, squirrelp, do furnish us with a big list of examples of people involved in mass shootings who just happened to be on psychiatric medications?", so I'm wondering if it was a) a whole load of people I didn't realise I'd got on ignore, b) a bunch of people on a completely different thread I'd missed, or c) yet ANOTHER PIECE OF CRAP YOU JUST PULLED OUT OF YOUR ARSE.

 

[Ax^]

It's the evidence you were requesting.

Here's perhaps a better link devoted to school shootings. We can add Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) - Celexa

School shootings – Psych Drug Shooters

so squirrelp state your point?
if they remove the medication can these guys still keep their guns


or are you just pissing into the wind spreading misinformation

 

[existentialist]

It's the evidence you were requesting.

Here's perhaps a better link devoted to school shootings. We can add Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) - Celexa

School shootings – Psych Drug Shooters

I asked for evidence. Not a pile of crap. You twat.

 

[existentialist]

Oh, and editor, if this really is completely unreasonable behaviour on my part, then do ban me now and save us all a lot of trouble.

 

[Ax^]

what you have to love is if you follow his c&p list to its source it's from an article saying

if we take guns away from people who have mental illness who next women?


the mind boggles whilst they repost this shit

 

[xenon]

Meh

 

[Ax^]

aye meh let us all forget this until the next time someone lights up a school with a AR 15


so next Tuesday alright for everyone

 

[rekil]

It's the evidence you were requesting.

Here's perhaps a better link devoted to school shootings. We can add Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) - Celexa

For 5 years you filth have been shouting that Sandy Hook didn't actually happen and harassing the families of victims. So which is it.

 

[existentialist]

It's the evidence you were requesting.

Here's perhaps a better link devoted to school shootings. We can add Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) - Celexa

School shootings – Psych Drug Shooters

And it didn't occur to you that a website whose domain name was "psychdrugshooters" might not - just possibly - be a teensy weensy bit inclined only to look at the evidence that supported the premise embedded right there in that domain name?

I don't know how much older than 12 you actually are, but rather more than 20 years ago I was more than holding my own against lunatics from the soi-disant "Church" of Scientology who were desperately attempting - complete with loaded domain names - to peddle the same flimsy agenda you're now half-heartedly trotting out. They, too, were dupes and stooges, but they did at least have the advantage that they truly believed the bollocks they were spewing all over this shiny new Internet, rather than merely regurgitating the first 3 links they happened to find on Google. Much as I despised them, too, they had at least had to go to some trouble to amass the "information" they felt obliged to share. I could at least respect their commitment to a cause they - no matter how misguidedly - believed in. Because they weren't mere googlewhores whose entire being was centred around frantically grubbing up loony websites that might conceivably (absent the merest research into the wonky credentials of those websites) support whatever claim they'd just dropped into the toilet bowl: these people had PAID GOOD MONEY to be duped into this shit. They'd bought into it with HARD CASH, and they meant it when they said it. All you can do is vomit up a series of links you've probably done no more than cursorily skim through the first 4 lines of. Much as it pains me to say it, each of those foolish Scienoloons was worth a hundred of you.

And still we owned them. A quarter of a century ago. You'd better raise your fucking game.

 

[existentialist]

aye meh let us all forget this until the next time someone lights up a school with a AR 15


so next Tuesday alright for everyone

It's a good point. Someone ought to have a "www.whenwillthenextshootinghappen.com" website up that calculates the probability of the next one based on the frequency of past shootings. "Next Tuesday" probably isn't that far off...

 

[MrSki]

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common (and it isn’t guns)

It is a fucking gun you twat.

 

[Mumbles274]

the other thing they all gave in common is fucking conspiraloon twats spouting shit about them. I think squirrelp is behind it all

Also they all have second amendment cunts spouting crap. No link there though, move along

 

[squirrelp]

And it didn't occur to you that a website whose domain name was "psychdrugshooters" might not - just possibly - be a teensy weensy bit inclined only to look at the evidence that supported the premise embedded right there in that domain name?

Campaign groups are quite allowed to present their case. You cannot dismiss facts on the basis of bias of the person presenting them. If that were the case, no-one could campaign for anything!

If you wish to provide counterexamples - school shooters who were known not to be taking any psychiatric meds: I don't think you will find a single example.

I don't know how much older than 12 you actually are, but rather more than 20 years ago I was more than holding my own against lunatics from the soi-disant "Church" of Scientology who were desperately attempting - complete with loaded domain names - to peddle the same flimsy agenda you're now half-heartedly trotting out. They, too, were dupes and stooges, but they did at least have the advantage that they truly believed the bollocks they were spewing all over this shiny new Internet, rather than merely regurgitating the first 3 links they happened to find on Google. Much as I despised them, too, they had at least had to go to some trouble to amass the "information" they felt obliged to share. I could at least respect their commitment to a cause they - no matter how misguidedly - believed in. Because they weren't mere googlewhores whose entire being was centred around frantically grubbing up loony websites that might conceivably (absent the merest research into the wonky credentials of those websites) support whatever claim they'd just dropped into the toilet bowl: these people had PAID GOOD MONEY to be duped into this shit. They'd bought into it with HARD CASH, and they meant it when they said it. All you can do is vomit up a series of links you've probably done no more than cursorily skim through the first 4 lines of. Much as it pains me to say it, each of those foolish Scienoloons was worth a hundred of you.

And still we owned them. A quarter of a century ago. You'd better raise your fucking game.

So 20 years ago people were pointing out to you that school mass shootings were being committed by people on psychiatric medications - how many more such shootings does it take before you accept it?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

the other thing they all gave in common is fucking conspiraloon twats spouting shit about them. I think squirrelp is behind it all

Also they all have second amendment cunts spouting crap. No link there though, move along

He's got an agenda that one

 

[Ax^]

Campaign groups are quite allowed to present their case. You cannot dismiss facts on the basis of bias of the person presenting them. If that were the case, no-one could campaign for anything!

About Dan Roberts


Dan Roberts is a grassroots supporter of gun rights that has chosen AmmoLand Shooting Sports News as the perfect outlet for his insightful articles on Guns and Gun Owner Rights.

explain the main argument of the article that you nicked your c&p list from

 

[existentialist]

Campaign groups are quite allowed to present their case. You cannot dismiss facts on the basis of bias of the person presenting them. If that were the case, no-one could campaign for anything!

If you wish to provide counterexamples - school shooters who were known not to be taking any psychiatric meds: I don't think you will find a single example.


So 20 years ago people were pointing out to you that school mass shootings were being committed by people on psychiatric medications - how many more such shootings does it take before you accept it?

You're making the claim. You prove it. Don't vomit a pile of shit over me, and then tell me it's my job to pick the diced carrot out of it.

 

[not-bono-ever]

thats a terribly shit article to post up to back up any argument I am afraid. If you are going to argue the point, have the courtesy to at least try a bit of critical reasoning beforehand

 

[xenon]

Is he saying mentally unbalanced people do mass murder? Wow.

Scumbag.

 

[Ax^]

alluding to the idea that the medication makes them do it..

 

[Mumbles274]

They've got no concept of what they are saying. it's just conspiracy nonsense by numbers. Dull, boring, vain, repetitive nonsense.

It can fuck off eh squirrelp

editor ban yet? Or can we toy with this dick some more?