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krtek a houby said:
This time round young uns with guns

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www.theguardian.com

Seven children, ages 12 to 17, wounded in Indianapolis mass shooting, police say

Victims transported to area hospitals after police heard shots fired near Circle Centre Mall on Saturday night
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It's beyond appalling

Police officers patrolling the area heard shots fired near the Circle Centre Mall shortly after 11.30pm, said the deputy chief of the Indianapolis metropolitan police department, Tanya Terry.


The officers found “a large group of juveniles” at the scene, including six who had gunshot wounds and were transported to area hospitals, Terry said during a news briefing at the scene early Sunday morning.

One of the victims was upgraded from critical to stable condition. The other victims all were listed in stable condition, said Terry, who was not able to immediately provide the genders of the victims.
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The parents of a school shooting in that killed four students in Oxford, Michigan where sentenced to 10 to 15 years in prison, weeks after being convicted of manslaughter.

“These convictions confirm repeated acts or lack of acts that could have halted an oncoming runaway train, about repeatedly ignoring things that make a reasonable person feel the hair on the back of their neck stand up,” the judge said.

“Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder and was ignored. No one’s no one answered. And these two people should have and sure didn’t.”

Matthews said James Crumbley provided “unfettered access to a gun or guns as well as ammunition in your home,” while Jennifer Crumbley “glorified the the use and possession of these weapons.”
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krtek a houby said:
They bought the kid a gun for Christmas!
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The thing that got me about the case was that the kid was hearing voices and seeing demons. He wrote his parents texts asking them to come home and help with the demons and they laughed it off. After a meeting with the school saying the kid was a danger to himself and others, they laughed it off.

www.fox2detroit.com

'Maybe it’s just my paranoia': Phone records show Jennifer Crumbley ignored texts from Ethan about demons

Jennifer Crumbley didn't reply on numerous occasions when Ethan texted her to tell her demons and ghosts were slamming doors, flushing the toilet, and trashing the house, even when he asked when she would be home.
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While I don't think parents should be routinely charged for their children's crimes, in this case the parents were so over-the-top negligent that some kind of legal response is needed.
 
I agree about parents not being routinely charged for their children's crimes, although gun ownership is different for me. If someone owns guns and doesn't secure them properly then it should be seriously considered whenever there's any illegal or even accidental use which leads to deaths.
 
hmm the sort of people who want to carry guns are the people who should be barred same with teachers

oddly the state has

Tennessee Law​

Tennessee has a stand your ground law which removes the duty to retreat before using deadly force in self-defense when a person is not engaged in unlawful activity and is in a place where a person has a right to be. The state’s laws also make it harder to properly investigate these cases by limiting law enforcement’s ability to arrest someone who claims to have acted in self defense.
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give it six months if we are lucky
 
Mass shooting about 20 miles from me, seven injured:

Seven people were injured, including four children between the ages of three to ten, during a shooting in Crete, Nebraska, on Friday afternoon.

The suspect, Billy Booth, 74, was later found dead inside his house across the street from what authorities said was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

The shooting occurred at approximately 4:30 pm on a residential property on Crestline Drive in Crete, according to Nebraska State Patrol Captain Sean Caradori.

"It appears that all the victims of the shooting will survive," Caradori said during a news conference Friday.

Colonel John A. Bolduc of Nebraska State Patrol confirmed on Saturday during a press conference that "multiple rounds were fired" by Booth from inside his house. They do not know the exact number of shots fired.

Bolduc said that they do not believe any verbal contact occurred between Booth and any of the victims in the moments leading up to the shooting.

However, there was prior history between Booth and the victims' families, police said.

Nebraska Crete Police Chief Gary Young said there was a report back in May in which the victims claimed that Booth flipped them off, told them to go back to where they came from and told them to speak English.

When asked if investigators think the shooting was racially motivated, Young responded, "There could be, we don't know. Certainly the context of 'Go home' and 'Speak English' lends itself to that."

Authorities initially believed six people were injured, but "a seventh patient realized he had been injured later in the evening," Bolduc revealed.

The victims were transported to the Crete Area Medical Center with some victims later being transferred to other medical centers for further care.

"All of the injuries are consistent with shotgun blast injuries," Bolduc said.

He added that "most of the victims were outside of the home at the time of the shooting, but at least one was inside the home when they were struck."

Although all victims are expected to survive, Bolduc noted that "recovery will be a long road for some of them."

A friend of one of the victims spoke to ABC affiliate KETV and claimed the shooter had previously made incendiary remarks before he "shot the house up." He said that the shooter shot his friend, as well as his friend's mom four times in her back.

According to Boldouc, officers heard "one single gunshot" in a home across the street from where the victims were found. They later discovered Booth deceased from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

They also uncovered two firearms in the house, yet only one shotgun is believed to have been used during this incident. To Boldouc's knowledge, Booth was legally allowed to possess a firearm.

"All gunfire had come from a single residence at 1810 Parkland Street." Bolduc said, which was Booth's home and the location in which he was found.

Investigators do not believe there are any additional suspects involved. Investigators said they are still trying to determine a motive and the probe is ongoing.

Crete Police officers, Saline County deputies, Nebraska State Troopers and Nebraska Game and Parks officers had responded to the scene, in addition to fire departments of neighboring towns.

The Nebraska State Police SWAT Team responded with multiple armored vehicles, and Caradori said they "breached the door of the home where the gunshots came from" at approximately 6:40 pm.

Caradori confirmed that no law enforcement officials fired weapons.

"I want all of Crete to know that this situation has been resolved and there's no threat to the public," Caradori said.
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Luckily all seven should survive. I made the mistake of looking at the comments on various sites about this story and was appalled. Everyone is blaming the immigrant family for basically being immigrants. Crete is a town built entirely on the meatpacking industry. Immigrants come for jobs that American won't do. There's signs all across the state advertising jobs there for a starting wage of $21 an hour and they still can't get Americans to work there.

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The only time Nebraska mades the news is if the body count is higher than five.
 
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emanymton said:
I think you are being a bit harsh, he is at least pointing the business end away from his groin, that must make him smarter than the average Trump supporter.
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Oh fucking hell, you've just reminded of that time when gun-humpers literally pointed their weapons at their family jewels in order to prove some asinine "point". Risking castration by firearms because they think other gun owners are too cautious. Brain-dead behaviour.
 
NoXion said:
Oh fucking hell, you've just reminded of that time when gun-humpers literally pointed their weapons at their family jewels in order to prove some asinine "point". Risking castration by firearms because they think other gun owners are too cautious. Brain-dead behaviour.
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So what I got from that article is that some gun owners think other gun owners have a 'safety obsession'? Sounds terrible. What bastards :facepalm:
 
ffs what sort of idiot gets told by the police their spawn has made threats and keeps guns in the house.
I'd get rid of them or keep them at a friend's relatives house or make sure no ammo was in the house.
you can buy ammo at supermarkets not sure teenagers can even in the South? do something ffs.
 
likesfish said:
ffs what sort of idiot gets told by the police their spawn has made threats and keeps guns in the house.
I'd get rid of them or keep them at a friend's relatives house or make sure no ammo was in the house.
you can buy ammo at supermarkets not sure teenagers can even in the South? do something ffs.
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The father has been arrested on charges including second-degree murder - he deserves to get life if this CNN report is correct

Colin Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present. The timeline the teen’s father provided to authorities would put the gun purchase months after authorities first contacted Gray and his family to investigate school shooting threats made online.

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Yossarian said:
The father has been arrested on charges including second-degree murder - he deserves to get life if this CNN report is correct

Colin Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present. The timeline the teen’s father provided to authorities would put the gun purchase months after authorities first contacted Gray and his family to investigate school shooting threats made online.

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FFS. If the FBI shows up at your door saying your kid has issues, maybe you should believe them. I understand that there were broader issues in this family. HIs mom was arrested as recently as last April for drug use, fraud, vandalism, etc. You don't buy your kid an AR-15 to make up for parental failures. Again, I don't think parents should routinely been charged for their kid's crimes, but this dad was seriously negligent, and mom was mostly out of the picture. TBH, I'm beginning to think American parenting needs some review.
 
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