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Or stole then from a family member who had
This, right here, is where you'll find most, BUT NOT ALL, of the guns used in this mass shootings

Some basic, "make sure your fucking gun is locked up" discipline would do more than help "a bit"

Likewise, even for the guns bought legally, a simple increase in the age to buy a gun to 21 would help
 
The man who ran over people at the parade, killing six has been found guilty. The dead included an 8-year-old boy and several "Dancing Grannies." It only took them three hours, which is about the time it takes to fill out the paperwork they're given to make the verdict official:

Darrell Brooks was found guilty of six counts of first-degree intentional homicide on Wednesday for driving his SUV into a crowd of Christmas parade attendees in Waukesha, Wisconsin, last November, killing six people and wounding dozens more.

He faces a mandatory sentence of life in prison for the convictions.

rooks, 40, also was convicted of 61 counts of recklessly endangering safety with the use of a dangerous weapon, six counts of fatal hit and run, two counts of felony bail jumping and one count of misdemeanor domestic battery – a clean sweep for the prosecution.

Brooks represented himself in court and has been combative throughout the trial, repeatedly speaking over the judge to make inane and outlandish arguments. Yet as the stream of guilty verdicts were read Wednesday, he looked down, put his head on his hands and sat silently.

The trial comes less than a year after he drove a red SUV through the crowd in Waukesha’s Christmas parade on November 21, killing an 8-year-old boy and several members of the “Dancing Grannies” group.

Brooks had been released from jail less than two weeks prior in a domestic abuse case, on a $1,000 bail that prosecutors later acknowledged was “inappropriately low.” In that case, he allegedly ran over a woman who said she’s the mother of his child, according to court documents.

Prosecutors said in closing arguments Tuesday he intentionally drove through the crowd at significant speeds and hit 68 individual parade-goers, turning a joyous afternoon into a horrific one.

“He reached speeds of approximately 30 mph. That’s intentional. He plowed through 68 different people. 68. How can you hit one and keep going? How can you hit two and keep going?” Waukesha County District Attorney Susan Opper said.

“His intent I do have to prove, and I submit without any doubt there’s overwhelming evidence that this was an intentional act by Darrell Brooks and an act of utter disregard for human life.”


 
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oh dear god i've been watching Trail footage for 3 weeks

not sure if the whole performance was a fail attempt of sovereign citizen bullshit, looking for any attempt to trick trained judges, lawyers and the police in a mistrial

or just as the cross examination of his ex missus, he could not handled a women leading proceedings

either way agree with the sentiment during his guilty charges "rot in hell you, piece of shit"
 
oh dear god i've been watching Trail footage for 3 weeks

not sure if the whole performance was a fail attempt of sovereign citizen bullshit, looking for any attempt to trick trained judges, lawyers and the police in a mistrial

or just as the cross examination of his ex missus, he could not handled a women leading proceedings

either way agree with the sentiment during his guilty charges "rot in hell you, piece of shit"

From his videos, I got the impression he was a psychopath who was angered by the fact that no one seems to do what he wants them to do--a control freak with no one to control. I hope the prison has a female warden.
 
how much does a gun normally cost over there? I have no idea of costs of any weapons anywhere in the world tbf. Is $675 a lot or not a lot?
 
how much does a gun normally cost over there? I have no idea of costs of any weapons anywhere in the world tbf. Is $675 a lot or not a lot?

Anything from a couple of hundred dollars for a cheap pistol to many thousands for specialist rifles and top-end shotguns. I reckon $600/700 is probably about average for a handgun.
 
Anything from a couple of hundred dollars for a cheap pistol to many thousands for specialist rifles and top-end shotguns. I reckon $600/700 is probably about average for a handgun.

I’d have guessed it to be in the top half of the range, maybe top quartile.

It’s not hard to get a Glock 17 for $450.
 
Nikolas Cruz formally sentenced to life in prison with no hope of parole after a 2-day hearing in which injured survivors and relatives of victims could tell him what they thought of him,

“Real justice would be done if every family here were given a bullet and your AR-15 and we got to pick straws, and each one of us got to shoot one at a time at you, making sure that you felt every bit of it, and your fear continued to mount until the last family member who pulled that last straw had the privilege of making sure that they killed you," said Linda Beigel Schulman, mother of slain teacher Scott Beigel. “That’s real justice for you.” Beigel Schulman said she takes some comfort in knowing that Cruz will have to worry constantly about his safety for the rest of his life. “From what I hear, child killers are highly frowned upon and hated in prison,” Beigel Schulman said to Cruz. “I welcome the day that I’m told that you’ve been tortured and taken out for yourc old-blooded, premediated, calculated, heinous murders, because you deserve no less.”
 
Nikolas Cruz formally sentenced to life in prison with no hope of parole after a 2-day hearing in which injured survivors and relatives of victims could tell him what they thought of him,

“Real justice would be done if every family here were given a bullet and your AR-15 and we got to pick straws, and each one of us got to shoot one at a time at you, making sure that you felt every bit of it, and your fear continued to mount until the last family member who pulled that last straw had the privilege of making sure that they killed you," said Linda Beigel Schulman, mother of slain teacher Scott Beigel. “That’s real justice for you.” Beigel Schulman said she takes some comfort in knowing that Cruz will have to worry constantly about his safety for the rest of his life. “From what I hear, child killers are highly frowned upon and hated in prison,” Beigel Schulman said to Cruz. “I welcome the day that I’m told that you’ve been tortured and taken out for yourc old-blooded, premediated, calculated, heinous murders, because you deserve no less.”

It's kinda sad looking at him when he listens to their testimony. None of it computes. He's so damaged that he can't relate to anyone and probably never will.
 
The hearing sounds like a complete shitshow. The judge seemed to just ignore the complaint from one juror that they were threatened by another in the jury room. Victims statements attacked the jurors who voted against the death penalty, and one of those who voted against the death penalty has been named in court documents, which is now being circulated online. Who the fuck would be willing to be on a Florida jury.
 
IANAL, but

The judge seemed to just ignore the complaint from one juror that they were threatened by another in the jury room.

that's a separate action, but taking cognizance would jeopardize the verdict, which would mean doing it all over again, w/ risk of acquittal (which the judge should not admit as a reason to ignore the complaint, but.)


Victims statements attacked the jurors who voted against the death penalty,

that's allowed i think, depending on how far the attack goes.

Some jurisdictions permit statements to express what they deem to be an appropriate punishment or sentence for the criminal.

Some jurisdictions expressly forbid any proposal or suggestion on punishment or sentencing.



and one of those who voted against the death penalty has been named in court documents

that should certainly never have happened.
 
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The Raleigh shooting was the latest in a violent week across the country. Five people were killed on Sunday in a shooting at a home in Inman, South Carolina. On Wednesday night two police officers were fatally shot in Connecticut after apparently being drawn into an ambush by an emergency call about possible domestic violence. Police officers have been shot this week in Greenville, Mississippi; Decatur, Illinois; Philadelphia, Las Vegas and central Florida. Two of those officers, one in Greenville and one Las Vegas, were killed.



The South Carolina incident Is is about five minutes away from where my family lives.

My cousin was caught in the crossfire of a parking lot incident and consequently had a bullet lodged in his brain in such a way that it could not be removed. The bullet also took out a portion of his tongue. With the brain injury and the damage to his tongue he couldn’t talk much afterwards. He became an alcoholic and drank himself to death.
 
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