The American mass shooting thread

[Yuwipi Woman]

Not quite a mass shooting but ... sovereign citizen fucking hell wonder what his defence will be.

When this happened his Facebook page was still up. There were hours and hours of hate-filled video. I listened to some of it, and he was a very angry and unhinged man. He hated women, old people, and white people the most. It shouldn't be a surprise that most of the victims were elderly women, or that he had previous domestic violence charges.

 

[Ax^]

are five of the murder charges not against elderly women

he had some serious mommy issues

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

are five of the murder charges not against elderly women

he had some serious mommy issues

It's going to really hack him off that the judge is a woman.

 

[tonysingh]

It's going to really hack him off that the judge is a woman.

Good.

 

[Yossarian]

The jury chose to sentence Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz to life in prison instead of death for 17 murders - Republicans will probably condemn this verdict more strongly than they did the murders.

 

[Ax^]

Good let him rot

for every minute of his life in solitary with nothing more dangerous that a rub mattress for company

he wanted to be infamous let him pay for it

 

[likesfish]

Rot in jail and be forgotten while life sentences are often barbaric not in this case
Taking him outside and neck shooting him one thing
But the macabre way the US string out death row for decades and still kill innocent people completely different.

 

[petee]

The Raleigh shooting was the latest in a violent week across the country. Five people were killed on Sunday in a shooting at a home in Inman, South Carolina. On Wednesday night two police officers were fatally shot in Connecticut after apparently being drawn into an ambush by an emergency call about possible domestic violence. Police officers have been shot this week in Greenville, Mississippi; Decatur, Illinois; Philadelphia, Las Vegas and central Florida. Two of those officers, one in Greenville and one Las Vegas, were killed.

Suspect, 15, in custody after North Carolina shooting leaves five dead

White juvenile male arrested with one survivor in critical condition after shooter opens fire on walking trail in Raleigh

www.theguardian.com

 

[editor]

The Raleigh shooting was the latest in a violent week across the country. Five people were killed on Sunday in a shooting at a home in Inman, South Carolina. On Wednesday night two police officers were fatally shot in Connecticut after apparently being drawn into an ambush by an emergency call about possible domestic violence. Police officers have been shot this week in Greenville, Mississippi; Decatur, Illinois; Philadelphia, Las Vegas and central Florida. Two of those officers, one in Greenville and one Las Vegas, were killed.

Suspect, 15, in custody after North Carolina shooting leaves five dead

White juvenile male arrested with one survivor in critical condition after shooter opens fire on walking trail in Raleigh

www.theguardian.com

America is fucked.

 

[Ax^]

Two girls shot after drivers fire at each other in Florida road rage

 

[likesfish]

Two girls shot after drivers fire at each other in Florida road rage

Scumbags started a road rage row while having there kids ib the back ffs.
That was bad enough of course the idiots were armed and can't shoot for shit.
Hopefully there now felons and can't have have guns any more.

 

[existentialist]

Scumbags started a road rage row while having there kids ib the back ffs.
That was bad enough of course the idiots were armed and can't shoot for shit.
Hopefully there now felons and can't have have guns any more.

Don't count on it.

 

[two sheds]

Both been charged with attempted murder apparently.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The jury chose to sentence Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz to life in prison instead of death for 17 murders - Republicans will probably condemn this verdict more strongly than they did the murders.

I think this was probably rightly decided, but I hope this guy never sees the light of day again. When I first saw his picture, I knew he had fetal alcohol syndrome. It can cause all kinds of cognitive impairments and changes to facial structures, so that was a mitigating circumstance that should preclude the death penalty. TBH, I don't think he'll live long in prison. Death row would have put him in solitary/protective custody. Putting him in general population will put him at greater risk than if he was on death row. IMHO, the death penalty would probably be kinder.

 

[bluescreen]

I think this was probably rightly decided, but I hope this guy never sees the light of day again. When I first saw his picture, I knew this guy had fetal alcohol syndrome. It can cause all kinds of cognitive impairments and changes to facial structures, so that was a mitigating circumstance that should preclude the death penalty. TBH, I don't think he'll live long in prison. Death row would have put him in solitary/protective custody. Putting him in general population will put him at greater risk than if he was on death row. IMHO, the death penalty would probably be kinder.

That's like being punished for how you are born.
Of course someone like him should be kept away from harm.
Of course someone like him should be kept away from any possibility of ever causing harm to others.

Of course someone like him should have been helped, if that were possible, to develop differently.
How can that help ever happen?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

That's like being punished for how you are born.
Of course someone like him should be kept away from harm.
Of course someone like him should be kept away from any possibility of ever causing harm to others.

Of course someone like him should have been helped, if that were possible, to develop differently.
How can that help ever happen?

It is, and I don't know why 9 jurors decided to vote for the death penalty, besides pure spite. They sure weren't following the law as written. I do however, understand why the family would want the death penalty, but that's why we don't put the family on the jury.

 

[Ax^]

I think this was probably rightly decided, but I hope this guy never sees the light of day again. When I first saw his picture, I knew he had fetal alcohol syndrome. It can cause all kinds of cognitive impairments and changes to facial structures, so that was a mitigating circumstance that should preclude the death penalty. TBH, I don't think he'll live long in prison. Death row would have put him in solitary/protective custody. Putting him in general population will put him at greater risk than if he was on death row. IMHO, the death penalty would probably be kinder.

cannot see anyone putting this guy in general pop
its not like he a low level offender who will get his charge sheet run by prison lawyers ( inmates with access outside)

he be known from the get go so unless they want him dead solitary or PC wings

 

[chandlerp]

and, of course, someone like him should never have had access to weaponry. As has been said, America is fucked.

 

[8ball]

When I first saw his picture, I knew he had fetal alcohol syndrome.

I'm no expert, but I don't see any obvious FAS markers.
Clear philtrum, lip thickness ratio pretty much bang on Caucasian average (1:1.6), average to highish nose ridge with a nose if anything on the longer than average side, no notable ear abnormalities, very slight squint and needing glasses from a young age is common in FAS but hardly decisive, and there seem to be no pics of him wearing glasses that weren't from that courtroom (and the refractive index looks low for such a big pair which seems to be making a statement).

I think that first mugshot that was taken was a little ambiguous, but it's clearer if you look at later court footage pics taken from a few angles.
You might of course just be much better at spotting these things than me, and it enough for his lawyers to seize upon to try and avert a death penalty, but I don't buy it from eyeballing the pics and it doesn't look like the jury did either.

Not that I believe in the death penalty, but that seems to be the mitigation offered by his defense. I understand that certain neurological tests didn't follow the pattern either.

Regardless of in utero alcohol (/crack cocaine as reported), the abuse he suffered as a child sounds sufficient to leave a person broken.

 

[spring-peeper]

 

[Orang Utan]

and a Texas school spokesman declared “it’s the least we could do”

 

[8ball]

and a Texas school spokesman declared “it’s the least we could do”

Not far off tbf.

 

[likesfish]

How about not letting nutters have guns

the UK government manages to stop me getting an ar15 it cant possibly be that difficult.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

How about not letting nutters have guns

the UK government manages to stop me getting an ar15 it cant possibly be that difficult.

It is once a fuck ton of guns have already been sold all over the US.

 

[8ball]

How about not letting nutters have guns

the UK government manages to stop me getting an ar15 it cant possibly be that difficult.

They can’t stop drugs getting into prisons so maybe they’re just chucking everything at the “no AR-15 for likesfish” thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

How about not letting nutters have guns

the UK government manages to stop me getting an ar15 it cant possibly be that difficult.

You're clearly not trying hard enough

 

[Indeliblelink]

2 Nurses in a maternity ward. FFS

 

[UnderOpenSky]

It is once a fuck ton of guns have already been sold all over the US.

Yes it won't stop criminals. But it seems most of these mass shootings are carried out by people who bought guns fairly easily.

 

[Numbers]

Latest school shooting.

St Louis: Three dead, seven injured after school shooting

Police "quickly stopped" a 19-year-old former student who opened fire in a Missouri public school.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[likesfish]

They can’t stop drugs getting into prisons so maybe they’re just chucking everything at the “no AR-15 for likesfish” thing.

harsh but fair