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Another horrific school shooting





Was hoping this was not gonna be posted.

America is having problems controlling their people.
We should give them a moment to get their shit together.
I would like to think that America is better than this.


But then I read of stories children finding guns, children being killed on their front steps, sleeping in their bedrooms or being killed while on the highway going to school.

(sigh)


Come on America, be better!!!!
 
Was hoping this was not gonna be posted.

America is having problems controlling their people.
We should give them a moment to get their shit together.
I would like to think that America is better than this.


But then I read of stories children finding guns, children being killed on their front steps, sleeping in their bedrooms or being killed while on the highway going to school.

(sigh)


Come on America, be better!!!!
Very true. Everytime i go through Peace Arch (border security in BC) i feel less safe. I read an interesting piece on the origins of Canada and the USA. One was created through war and one was created through negotiation. I’m aware that’s a quite crude generalization but i think there’s some truth to it.
 
Very true. Everytime i go through Peace Arch (border security in BC) i feel less safe. I read an interesting piece on the origins of Canada and the USA. One was created through war and one was created through negotiation. I’m aware that’s a quite crude generalization but i think there’s some truth to it.


I remember watching or reading a thing back many years.

Black people were interviewed and they said that they felt safer in Canada.

As my mom would say, "strange world we live in".


Did you see that article from North Bay about children being harassed for getting their shots?

Strange world.....
 
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I remember watching or reading a thing back many years.

Black people were interviewed and they said that they felt safer in Canada.

As my mom would say, "strange world we live in".


Did you see that article from North Bay about children being harassed for getting their shots?

Strange world.....
I didn’t initially see the story but i looked it up and read it. I genuinely think we’re living in a Mad Max barbarism vs civilisation moment.
 
American posters defend Rittenhouse claiming walking around with an assault rifle and getting into a confrontation is victim blaming same as a woman wearing a short skirt🤪.
They have completely lost the plot
 
American posters defend Rittenhouse claiming walking around with an assault rifle and getting into a confrontation is victim blaming same as a woman wearing a short skirt🤪.
They have completely lost the plot

A woman wearing a short skirt is victim blaming? :confused:
 
I’ve noticed a conspicuous absence of the expressions ‘thoughts and prayers’ and ‘it’s too soon to discuss gun control’ over the last few massacres. It’s almost like the NRA has realized no one is buying it anymore so they’ve just given up on perception management.



 
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more Guns :cool: nice little inclusion to the bit

why american is fucked "cannie change the 2nd amendment"

but currently trying to over turn roe vs wade
 
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more Guns :cool: nice little inclusion to the bit

why american is fucked "cannie change the 2nd amendment"

but currently trying to over turn roe vs wade
I gave up after Sandy Hook. The pro gun lot prefer weapons over their childrens’ lives. I actually quite enjoy throwing lead down a range. It’s like playing darts. But that’s it. Controlled. On a range.
When I’m going to fuck with a pro gun nut i always bring up a bolt gun (No Country For Old Men). It‘s designed for exactly the same purpose as a gun (to fire metal into something to cause debilitating trauma or death). The only difference is a bolt gun does it up close and personal.
 
more Guns :cool: nice little inclusion to the bit

why american is fucked "cannie change the 2nd amendment"

but currently trying to over turn roe vs wade

Non-historian point of view here, but I think there may be a discrepancy between both what the originators had in mind, and also in their interpretation of the word “amendment”.
 
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I gave up after Sandy Hook. The pro gun lot prefer weapons over their childrens’ lives. I actually quite enjoy throwing lead down a range. It’s like playing darts. But that’s it. Controlled. On a range.
When I’m going to fuck with a pro gun nut i always bring up a bolt gun (No Country For Old Men). It‘s designed for exactly the same purpose as a gun (to fire metal into something to cause debilitating trauma or death). The only difference is a bolt gun does it up close and personal.


We gave up on them decades ago.
We do not visit.
We do not buy anything made in the States.

Sounds harsh, but that is reality.


I don't want to do this, but I tend to see them as uncivilized.
I keep hoping to see a change. I know this is a generalization and a sweeping net, but........

If I could say something to them, it would be "STOP GOING BACKWARDS and be the nation you were destined to be".
 
We gave up on them decades ago.
We do not visit.
We do not buy anything made in the States.

Sounds harsh, but that is reality.


I don't want to do this, but I tend to see them as uncivilized.
I keep hoping to see a change. I know this is a generalization and a sweeping net, but........

If I could say something to them, it would be "STOP GOING BACKWARDS and be the nation you were destined to be".
I know. Some have seem to have taken ‘freedom’ to mean ‘my freedom over yours’. Shame really.
 
We gave up on them decades ago.
We do not visit.
We do not buy anything made in the States.

Sounds harsh, but that is reality.


I don't want to do this, but I tend to see them as uncivilized.
I keep hoping to see a change. I know this is a generalization and a sweeping net, but........

If I could say something to them, it would be "STOP GOING BACKWARDS and be the nation you were destined to be".

I think when your foundations are slavery and genocide, then unless you can face up to your past, make amends, and move on, your destiny is sealed.

The same goes for the UK, which never really recovered from winning WWII.
 
We gave up on them decades ago.
We do not visit.
We do not buy anything made in the States.

Sounds harsh, but that is reality.


I don't want to do this, but I tend to see them as uncivilized.
I keep hoping to see a change. I know this is a generalization and a sweeping net, but........

If I could say something to them, it would be "STOP GOING BACKWARDS and be the nation you were destined to be".

Meh. All the manifest destiny, exceptionalism, impossible aims, imperialism, hypocrisies and proliferation of cults... hell only knows what any nation's destiny is. Especially those with such self-regard and arrogance to their own people and the rest of the peoples across the world.

That said, there's a lot to like about the US. Many great activists, movements and thinkers. Amazing literature and art forms. And the willingness of those who stand up and address the bullshit, knowing that they will be villified, threatened or dead.

Am worried about family and friends there, but there's not a lot can do.
 
I think when your foundations are slavery and genocide, then unless you can face up to your past, make amends, and move on, your destiny is sealed.

The same goes for the UK, which never really recovered from winning WWII.


Makes total sense - Canada has made some terrible mistakes.
But we teach our past behaviour to our children so that they do not repeat them.

However, the States are different.
They seem to want to scrub their history clean and remove anything that makes them look bad.

I remember seeing that US parents claim their children are being educated to hate their country.
But the kids are just being taught their history.
Terrible decisions were made in the past. Back then, they thought they were doing the right thing. But it was not by our current positions.
 
Makes total sense - Canada has made some terrible mistakes.
But we teach our past behaviour to our children so that they do not repeat them.

However, the States are different.
They seem to want to scrub their history clean and remove anything that makes them look bad.

I remember seeing that US parents claim their children are being educated to hate their country.
But the kids are just being taught their history.
Terrible decisions were made in the past. Back then, they thought they were doing the right thing. But it was not by our current positions.
All countries have. These days when I'm walking around a UK stately home (I'm probably only allowed access to the inside so the owner can write it off as a tax expense) I look at the paintings on the wall of the lords in their finery and these days I realise most of them were slave traders, war profiteers or people who profited from the triangular trading system.
It's basically like having Escobar in his best suit on your wall.
One other thing. Tory in Gaelic means 'pursued'. In the context of a robber or outlaw. A pursued man. The Tories self identify as crooks.
 
no matter how ugly it seems over there, i still want to one day fly to florida, hire a car, and drive all the deep south and up to california. always been a dream of mine. i love the literature, music, wide open spaces that seems so familiar to us through part americanisation of our culture.
 
AMichigan prosecutor on Friday filed involuntary manslaughter charges against the parents of the teenage suspect in the deadly shooting at Oxford High School in Oxford Township, Mich.

At a press conference in Pontiac, Mich., Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald announced the charges against Jennifer and James Crumbley, whose 15-year-old son, Ethan Crumbley, is alleged to have carried out Tuesday's rampage, which left four students dead and seven others, including a teacher, injured.

"While the shooter was the one who entered the high school and pulled the trigger, there are other individuals who contributed to the events on Nov. 30," McDonald said. "And it is my intention to hold them accountable. It is imperative that we prevent this from happening again. No other parent or community should have to live through this nightmare."

James and Jennifer Crumbley were each charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter.

"Gun ownership is a right, and with that right comes great responsibility," McDonald said, before detailing the charges.

According to prosecutors, James Crumbley purchased the Sig Sauer 9-mm. semi-automatic handgun, the weapon allegedly used by his son, four days before the shooting. A store employee told investigators that Ethan Crumbley was with his father at the time of the purchase. The same day, Ethan Crumbley posted photos of the gun to social media with the caption, "Just got my new beauty today," McDonald said.

The next day, Jennifer Crumbley posted to social media suggesting that she and Ethan were testing out the gun, which she referred to as "his new Christmas present," McDonald said.

On Nov. 21, McDonald said that a teacher at Oxford High School observed Ethan Crumbley searching online for ammunition with his cellphone during class, and reported it to school officials, who informed Jennifer Crumbley but received no response from either parent.

The same day, McDonald said that Jennifer Crumbley exchanged text messages with her son about the reported incident, including one that read: "LOL I'm not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught."

Two people pause at a makeshift memorial outside Oxford High School in Oxford, Mich., Wednesday. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
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Two people pause at a makeshift memorial outside Oxford High School in Oxford, Mich., Wednesday. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
On the morning of the shooting, a teacher saw a note on Ethan Crumbley's desk that including a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun next to the words, "The thoughts won't stop, help me," and a bullet below the words "blood everywhere." The note also included drawings of figures with gunshot wounds, as well as the phrases "my life is useless" and "the world is dead."

The teacher was so alarmed she took a photo of the note with her cellphone. Jennifer and James Crumbley were immediately summoned to the school, McDonald said, and a school counselor removed Ethan Crumbley from class to meet with his parents. Ethan removed the note from his backpack, but it had already been altered, with the images of the gun and disturbing phrases "scratched out," McDonald said.

School officials told Jennifer and James Crumbley that they were required to find counseling for their son within 48 hours. McDonald said that both parents "failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him" and did not inspect his backpack. Prosecutors believe that the gun Crumbley allegedly used in the shooting was in his backpack at the meeting.

James and Jennifer Crumbley "resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time." They left the school, and he returned to the classroom.

Hours later, amid news of an active shooter at the school, Jennifer Crumbley texted her son: "Ethan, don't do it."

On Wednesday, Ethan Crumbley was charged as an adult with two dozen crimes, including first-degree murder, attempted murder and one count of terrorism causing death.

The terrorism charge — made possible under Michigan's 2002 anti-terrorism statute — is unusual, McDonald said, but reflective of the severity of the crime.

“What about all the children who ran, screaming, hiding under desks?" she said Wednesday. "What about all the children at home right now, who can’t eat and can’t sleep and can’t imagine a world where they could ever step foot back in that school? Those are victims, too, and so are their families, and so is the community. The charge of terrorism reflects that.”

On the morning of the shooting, a teacher saw a note on Ethan Crumbley's desk that including a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun next to the words, "The thoughts won't stop, help me," and a bullet below the words "blood everywhere." The note also included drawings of figures with gunshot wounds, as well as the phrases "my life is useless" and "the world is dead."

The teacher was so alarmed she took a photo of the note with her cellphone. Jennifer and James Crumbley were immediately summoned to the school, McDonald said, and a school counselor removed Ethan Crumbley from class to meet with his parents. Ethan removed the note from his backpack, but it had already been altered, with the images of the gun and disturbing phrases "scratched out," McDonald said.

School officials told Jennifer and James Crumbley that they were required to find counseling for their son within 48 hours. McDonald said that both parents "failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him" and did not inspect his backpack. Prosecutors believe that the gun Crumbley allegedly used in the shooting was in his backpack at the meeting.

James and Jennifer Crumbley "resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time." They left the school, and he returned to the classroom.

Hours later, amid news of an active shooter at the school, Jennifer Crumbley texted her son: "Ethan, don't do it."


I was a little skeptical about these charges until I read the details. His mom's response to him being disciplined for sending threats by email was "I told you. Don't get caught." In addition, his father took him out gun shopping just a few days before, bought the gun in his own name, and then turned it over to his minor son who was creating violent drawings of shooting up the school. The avoided meetings with the school about their son's problems and finally attended a meeting the day of the shooting. It's alleged that he had the gun in his backpack at the meeting.
 
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We gave up on them decades ago.
We do not visit.
We do not buy anything made in the States.

Sounds harsh, but that is reality.


I don't want to do this, but I tend to see them as uncivilized.
I keep hoping to see a change. I know this is a generalization and a sweeping net, but........

If I could say something to them, it would be "STOP GOING BACKWARDS and be the nation you were destined to be".
Do you buy anything made in China? Genuine question.
 
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