The 2019 General Election
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I would love that to be true, but I'm unsure of its accuracy
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Show me where I can see this great majority
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
A lot might be voting green tbh, all the XR/climate emergency stuff has been taken onboard by a lot of the younger generation.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
People complain about "the cult of Corbyn", but the Conservative manifesto has Johnson on the front cover and the Lib Dems bus not only has Jo Swinson on the side of it but also the title "Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats".
Farage, by comparison, looking positively humble.
Manifesto is still much lighter than Labour's.
Farage, by comparison, looking positively humble.
Manifesto is still much lighter than Labour's.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
And more absorbentPeople complain about "the cult of Corbyn", but the Conservative manifesto has Johnson on the front cover and the Lib Dems bus not only has Jo Swinson on the side of it but also the title "Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats".
Farage, by comparison, looking positively humble.
Manifesto is still much lighter than Labour's.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
64 pages, 52 once you take out the full-page pics and blanks (which is still very generous - if you take out the half-page pics it drops to around 48 I reckon). including nine separate shots of either Boris or men in hard hats holding as big sign saying 'We Love Boris'.
The whole thing [PDF] reads like they handed in a bunch of scrawled notes on some old receipts to the designer and told them "spin it out to however many pages would make a book with a spine look plausible. If in doubt put another photo of Boris in. Oh and throw a couple of BME people in there as well, make it look like we've got black friends and therefore can't be racist."
The whole thing [PDF] reads like they handed in a bunch of scrawled notes on some old receipts to the designer and told them "spin it out to however many pages would make a book with a spine look plausible. If in doubt put another photo of Boris in. Oh and throw a couple of BME people in there as well, make it look like we've got black friends and therefore can't be racist."
gosub
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As a result of an earlier Brexit legal skirmish, manifestos mean fuck all anyway The court case that proves you can't sue politicians for breaking their election promises
Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
It just shows the state for what it is that a committed, serious candidate gets more unfavourable press than a waffly completely untrustworthy 'but can turn on the charm' Etonian. The default winner. In all honesty, the future of the majority of the people in this country relies on the Labour leadership's ability to reach out beyond the committed supporters and signed up members. How? Make them fear another Conservative party government... by being honest and blunt.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The real surprise has to be that it’s more than 3 words long.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Can't say I've looked into it, but things must have changed a bit since the introduction of individual rather than household (or University Hall) registration. In other words, there's always likely to be more late registration of younger voters nowadays. Labour benefits from it, but it's not in itself necessarily a sign of a mini 'surge'. I think what I'm trying to say is that a fair % of these younger voters would have been on the register anyway 20 years ago.
Raheem
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People complain about "the cult of Corbyn", but the Conservative manifesto has Johnson on the front cover and the Lib Dems bus not only has Jo Swinson on the side of it but also the title "Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats".
Farage, by comparison, looking positively humble.
Manifesto is still much lighter than Labour's.
Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats sounds like a breakaway version of a successful band.
ManchesterBeth
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of course not. but those most concerned about a labour victory are labour socialists, but this manifesto is not even a reform orientated socialist one.
Farage is a far bigger wanker than Johnson, and that's a tough act to beat.
I keep saying this but I'm told I'm a cunt for doing so. Corbyn is working for the tories, not against them.
Before some silly fucker tells me I'm accusing Corbyn of being a tory spy, not at all, just he's fucking useless to might as well be.
I was asked what I believe Labour should do to improve their poll numbers, so have the first post on that subject.
Housing, especially affordable housing. There are many problems here but both parties are ignoring the best ways of solving the issues.
The tories have nothing to moan about or attack Labour for, can't without looking like bastards, and only estate agents will get hammered - no loss there.
Housing, especially affordable housing. There are many problems here but both parties are ignoring the best ways of solving the issues.
- Ban all non-UK residents from buying any property hasn't been on the market for at least six months from the first properly advertised offer date in the UK, but the price can't be lowered without resetting the clock.
- Tax the merry fuck out of any non-UK residents with more than one property so making it either unattractive, or raising money to build new council housing.
- Build as many new council houses as possible within the limits funds allow with only minimal borrowing
- Offer massive tax incentives to private builders who build affordable housing (Sales and rentals with a specified maximum price) on brownfield sites, but only if they cap the sale or rental price to an agreed maximum. Builders can still make money, but the upshot is cheaper housing. It would also be possible to make the buyer's contract state it can only be sold back to the builder within 5 years of the sale date, then only at cost + pre-negotiated interest.
The tories have nothing to moan about or attack Labour for, can't without looking like bastards, and only estate agents will get hammered - no loss there.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
There was only one aim for the manifesto: no May style blowing off their own feet. In that they’ve succeeded.
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SpineyNorman
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Racist
Yes, very important that whatever labour do they don't upset the Tories.
You must have loved Tony Blair.
How can it be racist when it applies to all, including white British expats?
I said non-residents, not foreigners, but perhaps you're too stupid to be able to read properly.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Corbyn was elected Labour leader by due process. From memory he was against Kendall, Burnham and Cooper but the membership chose him, he was not the 'mystery prize' but an MP who was known.
If there is a problem with his leadership it is down to the wider party for electing him or for not throwing up a popular alternative, it is not the fault of Corbyn being Corbyn.
Tories elected Boris Johnson in full knowledge that he is a lying sneering duplicitous privileged cunt who can spout a bit of Latin.
If the complaint is that party members are being manipulated by either Momentum or Hedge Fund Managers then that is rather a desperate position, and also rather patronising.
If there is a problem with his leadership it is down to the wider party for electing him or for not throwing up a popular alternative, it is not the fault of Corbyn being Corbyn.
Tories elected Boris Johnson in full knowledge that he is a lying sneering duplicitous privileged cunt who can spout a bit of Latin.
If the complaint is that party members are being manipulated by either Momentum or Hedge Fund Managers then that is rather a desperate position, and also rather patronising.
My god, you're stupid.
This will upset the tories in a big way, but they can't moan about it without looking bad as there are no losers except estate agents. Even builders can make a profit, so they have nothing to worry about.
Please learn to fucking read, that or stop with the pathetic trolling
Everybody makes mistakes, or did the British public get things right when they voted Brexit?
You make some interesting suggestions.
As a side note - my mum has just returned from a short break in London with friends and she remarked about the insanity of the capitals house prices. She saw one 3 bed house (smaller than her house) on the market for £27million and a 4 bedroom flat on the rental market for £18k per week or £13k per week on a long term lease.
She also noticed quite a few people sleeping rough around London. Such insane wealth yet abject poverty side by side.
I wonder - Brain fart
High rise blocks are commonly seen as undesirable because they tend to be concrete and not a lot more, but what would happen if a multi story car park like structure was populated with detached housing on the edges, complete with small city view private gardens, and open communal areas in the middle?
Could promoting such a building program assist the housing crisis by creating cheap, popular housing that used little land?
Cheap to build because of low land usage, but tower blocks without the disadvantages of tower blocks.
Just looked -Someone beat me to it
Multistorey car park in US transformed into designer micro-apartments
Vote winner for next time?
High rise blocks are commonly seen as undesirable because they tend to be concrete and not a lot more, but what would happen if a multi story car park like structure was populated with detached housing on the edges, complete with small city view private gardens, and open communal areas in the middle?
Could promoting such a building program assist the housing crisis by creating cheap, popular housing that used little land?
Cheap to build because of low land usage, but tower blocks without the disadvantages of tower blocks.
Just looked -Someone beat me to it
Multistorey car park in US transformed into designer micro-apartments
Vote winner for next time?
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