Yeah, he seems to be making the theological point about it not being up to him to declare what is a sin but he should know thats not how politics works and he should be able to explain it better.
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Yeah, he seems to be making the theological point about it not being up to him to declare what is a sin but he should know thats not how politics works and he should be able to explain it better.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Yeah, considering he's been attacked on it previously you'd think the LDs would have come up with a better answer for him to use.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
like what? If you think gay sex is a sin then you are a homophobe, theres no getting round that is there?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Establishes a hypocrisy - shouts how he's a christian, argues that his beliefs don't matter that much. What's going to hell vs a democratically arrived at party policy? What else is he prepared to ditch as not mattering - and if they don't matter then he's just an empty suit and anyone can do his job - there's no reason to vote for him or hist party.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
By his words he has put himself in the position of either saying that it is a sin or isn't - either way he's judging what is and isn't a sin. That's the ground he's chosen. And to to try and foist it onto a neutral idea of a content and judgement free politics/legal process to get out of the hole is typically cowardly
I dunno. Actions speak louder than thoughts. Just cause you think someone's going to hell doesn't mean you have to treat them any different in the earthly realm does it?
For sure, he's boxed himself into the corner.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Tories in Reading following May's lead and not turning up to debate the other Parties. 
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You won't get 200:1 now, that's for sure.View attachment 108273
Got this thru the door today...
Very dangerous gambit this one, no?
Bet they're regretting it now
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Is that an advert for the Tories rather than Labour? 
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
not if it's an anti-labour leaflet
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
...and you'd think they'd be trying to win the votes of the Trump and Brexit leaning voters rather than give them the nod to vote Labour.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
after that well publicised hand-holding episode? among other things?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i'm sure a lot of Tory supporters are not fans of Trump either, like many Republicans
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you can see this a lot in analysis from some quarters- its the whole notion that 'populism' is a dirty word. Its an attempt as old as time by liberals to say the left are as bad as these right demagogues and ooh everyones lost their heads. Melenchon, sanders and corbyn lumped in the same breath as le pen and trump.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
As an anarchist I take a perverse pleasure in taking seriously the tricks, scare stories and levers of influence that act as the internal logic of conventional politics. Whilst I still think the tories will win, its interesting (and actually quite hopeful) if some of this is breaking down - for example the idea that a lab-snp de facto alliance can't be used to freak people. That was certainly part of brexit and trump, the distrust of conventional politics - the positive part.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh. no one should trust someone who wants to bring in a dementia tax when they say 'a vote for the other party is a vote for nastiness' or whatnot.
There was much discussion of this strategy early on in the campaign - there was concern that it was such a foregone conclusion some of the Tory vote might not bother mobilising - so the Tories were talking up Labour's chances in order to get those voters out....and if they thought Corbyn had a chance of winning then why on Earth did they call the election?
Either:
- They're lying on their leaflets about it
- They're stupid
- Or something has changed since they called it. Wonder if they'd like to explain what that is
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
or all of the above...and if they thought Corbyn had a chance of winning then why on Earth did they call the election?
Either:
- They're lying on their leaflets about it
- They're stupid
- Or something has changed since they called it. Wonder if they'd like to explain what that is
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Boiler rooms, ramping and the usual "line your own pockets at the expense of others" shit that such scum indulge in. Rudd worked for her dad's companies too, something she keeps off of her CV.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
She was Home Sec in a government where most decision-making was even more centralised than Labour under Blair and Brown. She was rarely challenged not least because the opposition - and the small section of the media that actually questioned the coalition govt - knew that the decisions coming out of her department, weren't HER decisions. She got the leadership on the strength of a perception of toughness that she never remotely married up to. Unfortunately for her, the perception has unravelled prior to, rather than after a G.E.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
My (ex DM reading but coming round) MiL came out with
"That Corbyn's a bit like Trump don't you think?"
"?????!?!!?"
"He just promises a lot of what people want"
I found this to be quite revealing:
BBC Radio 4 - Desert Island Discs, Rt Hon Theresa May - Music Played
BBC Radio 4 - Desert Island Discs, Rt Hon Theresa May - Music Played
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