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The 2017 General Election campaign

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Nine Bob Note said:
The Graun now believes Corbyn WILL be at the debate tonite
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great news he's on the offensive - May will be accused of 'being fritt' whatever that was back in the day. The Establishment and spooks will need to check out their 'Project Silent Coup' to see if it's still fit for purpose in the event of a Corbyn win.
 
Then, after he had wrapped up his speech and received applause, Corbyn spoke to the crowd again to announce his news. He said:


I hope you will forgive me, I have to go now because I am going to go to Cambridge to get ready for the debate tonight because there is no hiding place. We’ll put our views out there and let the people decide. For the many, not the few.

For the many not the few - pass it on.
 
Before the weekend, Lynton Crosby was given back the reins of the tory campaign.

I wondered what this could mean given that so much mud being thrown at Corbyn seems to have stopped working.

Today, the fascist headlines are belming once more about migration, the old standby topic.

The term ""Project Fear" was not first coined for the EU referendum, but by Crosby for his 2010 campaign.

It's back. Their visceral hatred and distrust of other human beings, the not-even-veiled racism.

There's no point us telling one another how awful the tories are or squabbling about voting Green in safe seats. We need to find the people, pages, groups populated by neutrals and target them with facts about the miserably failed economy, the lack of brexit strategy, the anti-human treatment of people with disabilities etc.
 
taffboy gwyrdd said:
Before the weekend, Lynton Crosby was given back the reins of the tory campaign.

I wondered what this could mean given that so much mud being thrown at Corbyn seems to have stopped working.

Today, the fascist headlines are belming once more about migration, the old standby topic.

The term ""Project Fear" was not first coined for the EU referendum, but by Crosby for his 2010 campaign.

It's back. Their visceral hatred and distrust of other human beings, the not-even-veiled racism.

There's no point us telling one another how awful the tories are or squabbling about voting Green in safe seats. We need to find the people, pages, groups populated by neutrals and target them with facts about the miserably failed economy, the lack of brexit strategy, the anti-human treatment of people with disabilities etc.
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That worked when Labour were Tory-lite, because neither side were giving a positive message and if you are going to vote for austerity, you might as well do it properly.

It's a harder sell, however, to push fear in the face of hope.
 
taffboy gwyrdd said:
Before the weekend, Lynton Crosby was given back the reins of the tory campaign.

I wondered what this could mean given that so much mud being thrown at Corbyn seems to have stopped working.

Today, the fascist headlines are belming once more about migration, the old standby topic.

The term ""Project Fear" was not first coined for the EU referendum, but by Crosby for his 2010 campaign.

It's back. Their visceral hatred and distrust of other human beings, the not-even-veiled racism.

There's no point us telling one another how awful the tories are or squabbling about voting Green in safe seats. We need to find the people, pages, groups populated by neutrals and target them with facts about the miserably failed economy, the lack of brexit strategy, the anti-human treatment of people with disabilities etc.
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Not sure about the term 'fascist headlines' and completely stumped about 'belling'.
 
phillm said:
I'm late to the Corbyn party - but very happy to have a drink at Jeremy's pub..

If Jeremy Corbyn Ran Your Local Pub
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I liked this bit:

If Jeremy Corbyn ran your local pub, the managers of the bland chain pub down the road would be utterly perplexed by the fact people want to drink in Jeremy Corbyn's pub. "But our pub is obviously what people want," they'd say. "We've done extensive market research. Why are all these people drinking in a pub that can never be popular?"

If Jeremy Corbyn ran your local pub, sometimes the managers of the bland chain pub down the road would try and tempt drinkers away from Jeremy Corbyn's pub, by standing outside it calling them stupid.
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On the subject of Millbank, that march when it all kicked off and they smashed up Millbank. I was on that march. Sort of. We got the coach from Keele when the sun wasn't even up. There were several coaches going from Keele. We picked the wrong one. Our driver was a twat, and went the wrong way. "It's alright, I know a shortcut." A shortcut to hell, he meant.

When we finally got to London we had to travel some distance to find the end of the march. I think it was just about to pass Westminster when we got to it. After 20 minutes marching, the whole thing was called off because of the Millbank kerfuffle. Then we had to spend another several hours standing huddled in the cold by the side of the Thames waiting for the coach to try to find us again, in the midst of traffic chaos.

It was gone midnight by the time we got home.

What a day.

While we were there, we still managed to bump into the only 2 people we knew in London. By chance.
 
kabbes said:
That worked when Labour were Tory-lite, because neither side were giving a positive message and if you are going to vote for austerity, you might as well do it properly.

It's a harder sell, however, to push fear in the face of hope.
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Kabbes you have been critical of Corbyn for a while, and I've often found myself agreeing with some of your criticisms, but have things changed now do you think? In terms of possibilities, the view of the public towards Corbyn etc
 
Bristol NW leaflet update: a third Labour leaflet has dropped through the letterbox and a second Tory one.

Labour: Large picture of Darren Jones "Your local pro-European candidate" (Bristol NW voted two thirds Remain).
Brexit stuff inside as well as schools, hospitals, housing & environment

Tory: "Charlotte Leslie Standing With Theresa May"
Letter from May inside on Brexit. Leslie has all the local stuff she always goes on about. All the cliches (Strong, stable v coalition of chaos), sinister pics of Abbott, Sturgeon, Farron and Corbyn, warnings that Corbyn as PM could happen.

Overall feel is that Labour is positive, Tory negative. Tory stuff looks tired, we've seen it all before (even the local candidate stuff has been done to death in previous leaflets over the years), Labour seems fresher, offering something we don't have already and personalised to the constituency in a way that the Tory one isn't.

Yes of course I'm biased. But Darren Jones seems to be doing a far better job than Charlotte Leslie here in campaigning to win Bristol NW
 
JTG said:
Bristol NW leaflet update: a third Labour leaflet has dropped through the letterbox and a second Tory one.

Labour: Large picture of Darren Jones "Your local pro-European candidate" (Bristol NW voted two thirds Remain).
Brexit stuff inside as well as schools, hospitals, housing & environment

Tory: "Charlotte Leslie Standing With Theresa May"
Letter from May inside on Brexit. Leslie has all the local stuff she always goes on about. All the cliches (Strong, stable v coalition of chaos), sinister pics of Abbott, Sturgeon, Farron and Corbyn, warnings that Corbyn as PM could happen.

Overall feel is that Labour is positive, Tory negative. Tory stuff looks tired, we've seen it all before (even the local candidate stuff has been done to death in previous leaflets over the years), Labour seems fresher, offering something we don't have already and personalised to the constituency in a way that the Tory one isn't.

Yes of course I'm biased. But Darren Jones seems to be doing a far better job than Charlotte Leslie here in campaigning to win Bristol NW
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[roving reporter] Just walked past Charlotte Leslie's offices. They're looking very forlorn. Faded posters, all sun bleached and curling. Looks like they haven't even made the effort to spruce up the window display for the election :D [\roving reporter]
 
It's just complacency throughout with the tories as far as I can see. Not many of them wanted the election I guess, they just want it over and done now. They'll still win but it has been a shambles to say the least.
 
Teaboy said:
It's just complacency throughout with the tories as far as I can see. Not many of them wanted the election I guess, they just want it over and done now. They'll still win but it has been a shambles to say the least.
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Yeah your probably right - all this deluded optimism is heady stuff though. The boy done well.
 
I am so sick of her answering everyone single question by saying 'First of all.....' and then not answering anything. She's barely managed a single answer during this campaign.
 
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