mikey mikey
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kebabking calls them "randoms". I think it means something negative cos he also called them shit.
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kebabking calls them "randoms". I think it means something negative cos he also called them shit.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
You know that reading thing I mentioned to you, I think you need to work a bit harder at it...
The lady was highlighting disability benefit cuts, not mental health provision, yet the media, inc Sky news just now have focused on the latter.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
We have all already decided that the answer to mental health problems is posh people talking about it on the telly. It's also the answer we get about NHS cuts even though it has little to do with that. It has become the go to talking point of neoliberals.
Crosby? I thought Tarkin gave him his marching orders after blowing up the holy city of Jedda?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Hilary Benn is an odious shite weasel tbf
I expected it tbh, they cannot acknowledge the casualties of the benefit cuts/reforms without highlighting their own misinformation strategies and demonisation of disabled and sick people which facilitated it.
Raheem
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Not sure what this is in response to, but I'd put it in the category of comments that don't always need to be relevant.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
For fuck's sake give over, Eeyore!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Treelover could almost be Alf Garnett!!
mikey mikey
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So butchersapron call these "shit" and kebabking calls them "randoms"
Meanwhile, kebabking tells us how great at "hitting the pavements" May is
Well she certainly beat a path to the car!
Meanwhile, kebabking tells us how great at "hitting the pavements" May is
Well she certainly beat a path to the car!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Beyond.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
So butchersapron call these "shit" and kebabking calls them "randoms"
Meanwhile, kebabking tells us how great at "hitting the pavements" May is
Well she certainly beat a path to the car!
But...but...but the tories are really popular with the northern working class, we know because southern middle class media types told us.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Just...bizarre.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
That is actually the worst headline I've seen so far from them. Despicable.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
You are despicable for not wanting it to be true.
MightyTibberton
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Some US-based YouTube coverage. I started watching some of the Young Turks' (the founder is of Turkish heritage) videos when they came up around Trumpo's election. I've never seen them do anything on British domestic politics before - though they mention Brexit from time to time.
They're branded as "progressives" in the States, and are Bernie Sanders fans - they love the manifesto! The main presenter here is a comedian. I believe they claim to be the biggest political channel on YouTube, though I have absolutely no idea what that means in terms of media impact in this country. (They swear a lot, so be aware of that if you want to watch it and you don't like that sort of language.)
They're branded as "progressives" in the States, and are Bernie Sanders fans - they love the manifesto! The main presenter here is a comedian. I believe they claim to be the biggest political channel on YouTube, though I have absolutely no idea what that means in terms of media impact in this country. (They swear a lot, so be aware of that if you want to watch it and you don't like that sort of language.)
free spirit
more tea vicar?
Here's a big benefit from this sort of campaigning - a pretty glowing report about the event, Corbyn's reception etc on the BBC local news and comparing it with Theresa May's stage managed crap at the end as well.
Hard for political reporters to repeat the stuff about him being unpopular when they've just witnessed scenes like that.
Raheem
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No, but the standard sign-off is "Jeremy Corbyn is very popular with these fanatics, but it remains to be seen how his message will go down with normal people like you and me. Back to you, Huw."
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
There is a very active campaign to get students to register, I have a number of friends involved and they're organising flyering and stalls on campus (quite a few of them work on campus, are not young hipster types). Most of the student area is in a seat that is a three-way marginal, currently held by a lib dem, who is quite popular locally due to the usual dogshit politics stuff, and like Farron a bit secretive about his Christianity and a few associated dodgy votes/abstentions.
Quite a few people I know on Facebook just turned up for a look today, the venue for the speech is a very popular and well liked community venue so there was some fascination about corbyn showing up there, not just glassy-eyed fan club members in the crowd. Apparently it was reported on the BBC that supporters had been 'bussed in'
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Extraordinary turn out in leeds - mid afternoon on a rainy weekday - well away from the city centre.
This is not just "momentum die hards" - its a mass movement.
How many would Ed milliband, or Andy Burnham have got? A few hundred tops - probably less. Tony Blair in 1997 - when he was the golden boy of british politics - would have got nowhere near those numbers.
Farage did a flying visit to leeds during the brexit campaign - there were a dozen of his entrourage and a few random folk who descended on the pub to call him a cunt (like me
)
Meanwhile Teresa May daren't appear in public - yet she is clearly going to win the election.
So how do we make sense of this? Where does this go?
This is not just "momentum die hards" - its a mass movement.
How many would Ed milliband, or Andy Burnham have got? A few hundred tops - probably less. Tony Blair in 1997 - when he was the golden boy of british politics - would have got nowhere near those numbers.
Farage did a flying visit to leeds during the brexit campaign - there were a dozen of his entrourage and a few random folk who descended on the pub to call him a cunt (like me
)Meanwhile Teresa May daren't appear in public - yet she is clearly going to win the election.
So how do we make sense of this? Where does this go?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
same question was asked when corbyn got in first time, then second time. There is no doubt that he can draw a crowd in the way that most politicians just cannot, but will that translate into votes? I am not hopeful at all. Momentum haven't had any.
On the crowds thing, normally on a march or a thing the rule is get gone before the labour drones bore off on the stage, never stay for the speeches. Golden rule of preserving sanity. Recon I might stay to listen to iron corbz though, even if I can't vote for his party.
Depends what time the coach home is leaving tbh
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I think that's a good question and one I've been interested in for a bit - the disjuncture between a neo-liberal consensus, a capitalist realism, lack of confidence in any kind of alternatives - and apparently large numbers of people willing to do something about it. As such, this isn't intended as a pissing on chips post, but in one sense the answer is that it's going nowhere in the short term. Labour will lose badly and Corbyn will either resign or, ultimately, be forced out. It will be very difficult to bring these numbers out for anything after the election and Labour's membership numbers are apparently in free fall.
I suppose the real answer in terms of it going nowhere is that it's going nowhere because it's gone nowhere in the last 18 months. Rallies, a few campaigns, some attempts at organising beyond the party's traditional places (I believe, but haven't seen much of it). Shoehorning 500,000 into the Labour Party hasn't achieved much, it's just been a dispiriting stand off with the right and, more importantly, it hasn't become something else, a social movement or reinvigorated working class politics. There are signs as to what might have been with the reception Labour's nationalisation policies have had, but they don't seem to be shaking the polls. Very hard to see where it goes - whilst the press and commentariat will be yapping away about the need for a new generation of Blairites to lead the party, there's neither the energy, personnel or ideas for that to happen. But equally, it's hard to see an effective social democratic leadership starting the whole thing off again.
You can sign up for my positive thinking classes at....
free spirit
more tea vicar?
They did add an extra voiceover in the late news to feed in the tory view on how he's going to fund his plans etc.
mikey mikey
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Actually I found neither youtube vids from The Canary: they are uploaded to a channel called B Heard Media
Moreover ITV covered the Corbyn rally in Leeds Huge crowds force road closures as Corbyn visits Leeds
Do you feel that anything positive about Corbyn is Canary-esque?
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mikey mikey
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From The Canary, clearly.
mikey mikey
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Now BBC Yorkshire is getting their news from The Canary!
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