bemused
Well-Known Member
Any cab driver can do this.
TfL denied Uber operator license, ride hailing service wins on appeal (Sept 2020)
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Any cab driver can do this.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
skyscraper101
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I would have no problem fucking off Uber for another service if it could provide a similar app interface, pooling options, and convenience of a cashless/cardless transaction.
However, I've yet to find anything which matches its seemless design. AND, I have massive issues with using Black Cabs (ripoff, noisy shit vehicles you can't sit up front in) and private hire (stupid expensive due to nonsense antiquated law requiring running a physical booking office). Uber, at least had the ingenuity to make things like pooled cab rides a real thing and inexpensive for all plus the simplicity of seeing where your car is on a map just makes life easier for all.
TFL also need to get with licensing other rival companies to Uber (e.g. Taxify). Black cabs and minicabs are soooo last century and Uber rivals operate just as well in other cities e.g. Lyft in LA etc.
I mean, let's understand this is not ideal for anyone, but the drivers will be the worst affected in the short term. They are the ones have to pay a shit ton of money for their insurance, plus the TFL public carriage license which is more than what other cities require. There are also very big restrictions on what kind of vehicle can be used to be an uber driver. It's not a simple thing. They will lose out on this more than any of us if Uber cannot successfully appeal this, or get their license reinstated sharpish. Much as I may complain about not having their services for a while, and much as Uber lay lose millions on their potential loss of one of their major markets, it will be the drivers who are hardest hit.
However, I've yet to find anything which matches its seemless design. AND, I have massive issues with using Black Cabs (ripoff, noisy shit vehicles you can't sit up front in) and private hire (stupid expensive due to nonsense antiquated law requiring running a physical booking office). Uber, at least had the ingenuity to make things like pooled cab rides a real thing and inexpensive for all plus the simplicity of seeing where your car is on a map just makes life easier for all.
TFL also need to get with licensing other rival companies to Uber (e.g. Taxify). Black cabs and minicabs are soooo last century and Uber rivals operate just as well in other cities e.g. Lyft in LA etc.
I mean, let's understand this is not ideal for anyone, but the drivers will be the worst affected in the short term. They are the ones have to pay a shit ton of money for their insurance, plus the TFL public carriage license which is more than what other cities require. There are also very big restrictions on what kind of vehicle can be used to be an uber driver. It's not a simple thing. They will lose out on this more than any of us if Uber cannot successfully appeal this, or get their license reinstated sharpish. Much as I may complain about not having their services for a while, and much as Uber lay lose millions on their potential loss of one of their major markets, it will be the drivers who are hardest hit.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
So what? Is there an app which prevents black cab and minicab drivers from working long hours?
Is there something special about Uber drivers that they can't be trusted just like anyone else not to overwork?
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Hailo?
UrbaneFox
They've doubled in price
Uber drivers can't stop working when they feel like it. If a customer in London wants to go to Aberdeen airport they have to take the job or never work for Uber again. Good riddance. The fares would have gone up massively when black cabs had been forced out of business.
Haven't drivers been sacked for slagging off the company to fares?
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I was about to call you a racist then until I realised I was misreading the line.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
why would you want to sit up front?
Erm, can nobody else see the blatant conflict of interest here from TfL? Why isn’t an independent body in charge of these decisions? These guys run the black cabs.
This safety bullshit is just that. We all knows it’s about a cartel protecting their own and getting away with ripping off the rest of us. Fucking absurd.
This safety bullshit is just that. We all knows it’s about a cartel protecting their own and getting away with ripping off the rest of us. Fucking absurd.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Better view of the accident.
bemused
Well-Known Member
Why wouldn't they fly?
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Because why shouldn't I sit up front? There's a seat isn't there? I like to sit up front and its not a problem with every other taxi.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
buses are cheap, and they're in charge of those
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
To talk to the driver.
Customers and drivers happy but the corporation isn't fluffy so everyone rejoices 
TfL don't run the black cabs. They're the licensing authority.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Black cab drivers are self employed.
I don’t get your point
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
are you 12?
it would feel a bit weird in a taxi anyway
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
fuck that - that's another good reason for getting the bus, you can listen to tunes while you're getting to the destination. would be rude in a cab.
bemused
Well-Known Member
I've never heard a cabbie say a nice thing about TfL - until now at least.
maomao
普費斯
There's no rules in the whole industry. No tachos on minicabs. At least Uber drivers can go home when they like and don't have some demented stressed controller urging them to keep working when they want to go home.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
This has been revised now to they're split between those drivers for whom it's their main job and those who fit it in round other stuff. The former don't like uber, the latter do like uber, apparently.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
they're not just in charge of cabs, so if you don't want to be ripped off and you're able bodied enough to get the bus or luggage free, then that's an option
bemused
Well-Known Member
Customers and drivers happy but the corporation isn't fluffy so everyone rejoices
I'm not rejoicing, I just find it interesting. I don't think Uber are leaving London - I think they'll win the appeal or TfL will find a face-saving way to grant the license. It's a negotiation.
maomao
普費斯
No. They never quite did it. Already been eaten by one of the other cab firms haven't they? A new firm.
skyscraper101
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What's the problem with someone wanting to sit up front in a car? I do it all the time.
Anyway, because of this dumb rule, a black cab will only take 5 passangers when it can clearly take 6 if they just stopped being dicks and preventing people riding up front.
I used to work for TfL and by extension the PCO from time to time. I can assure you they run the black cabs. If they can’t keep up with technology then that’s their problem. I’d like to have the choice. Have you ever felt unsafe in an Uber?
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