TfL denied Uber operator license, ride hailing service wins on appeal (Sept 2020)
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
They certainly live on one and have done for years
...... but when I said "prime" I should really have said "very much"
BristolEcho
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Yeah to be fair I don't disagree with this at all and this is an issue I have pointed out previously when having the Uber Vs Black cab debate. They shouldn't run on different rules. Particularly before I'd ever used an app to book one.
I've not found black cab drivers any more reliable for people with disabilities unfortunately. In fact a friend of mine had consistent trouble with local taxi drivers until he switched to Ola. We've always found it hard to find reliable taxi drivers.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Now I'm confused.They certainly live on one and have done for years
... but when I said "prime" I should really have said "very much"
What does being a boater have to do with you being made to sit on a newspaper in a cab pinkmonkey ?
scifisam
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Black cabs are regulated differently outside of London - I just looked up Ola and they're a South-West England and Wales only company. Black cabs in London are regulated by TFL, and so are minicabs. They probably have more power over their drivers than the local council authorities that regulate them elsewhere. Black cab drivers outside London don't have to do the Knowledge. They're a different thing, really.
BristolEcho
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Ah okay I didn't know that thanks for pointing it out. Ola were originally based in India I think, but yes probably only operate in those areas in the UK.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
to be honest, it depends very much on the council - it's one of the few things that councils have quite a lot of discretion on, some councils seem to enjoy making up hoops to jump through, some try to do it with as little effort as possible. some areas do require some form of local knowledge test for hackney carriage drivers, some also for private hire drivers.
the whole system of taxi licensing (i have had some involvement with this in the past) is really in need of a bit of a re-think, it's very parochial, and some bits of law round it date back to the 1840s (although the requirement to carry a bale of hay is an urban myth), private hire licensing only really became a thing in the 70s (and not until after 2000 in London) and there were minor bodges to the law in the 80s. Mostly well before internets and apps were thought of...
scifisam
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I would image that something like the Knowledge would be difficult to regulate outside a really big city, because drivers would so often be travelling outside the city. It is less relevant now, with GPS, but in London at least it does help because you don't need to know the postcode of where you're going.
Imagine a character in a movie getting into a taxi and saying follow that cab! with an uber.
maomao
普費斯
I don't think they'll get it back. There's very little case for saying it will put drivers out of work now there's at least three equivalent platforms that the PCO presumably do think are run by fit and proper people. I haven't met many drivers who only do Uber for a while and am sure the recruitment departments at Kapten, Ola and Bolt are working overtime right now.
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Because we're sometimes seen as being dirty. Soon as I told him where I wanted to go he made me sit on newspaper.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Oh. I had no idea.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
If this stops people from saying such banal bollocks as , "I'll grab an uber." then I'm all for a banning 
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Paying to sit in a confined space with a miserable gammon who complains for the entire ride, because I’m travelling a mile? Nope. Do any Londoners like them or is it only tourists? We did have a brilliant minicab firm at the station (Tottenham Hale) and they were just great, but their office was demolished because the station is being extended. I’ll use another app, or minicab firm if Uber stop trading, as I guess will everyone else.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
If this stops people from saying such banal bollocks as , "I'll grab an uber." then I'm all for a banning
It's actually amazing how quickly stuff like that becomes part of language. I've caught people saying it even when they mean get a black cab from the street.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
This is a very silly argument.
Bolt is already up and running in London and I imagine there are a fair few other similar apps all doing the same thing with probably the same drivers.
The mad thing about Uber is how they really should have taken over the world, they should be the one stop shop in virtually every city because they pioneered the concept and had the technology in place yet they've fucked it in so many places mostly because of their business practices. Turns out being a bunch of cunts that pisses everyone off is not always a good business model. Its amazing the amount of places its banned in yet other similar apps are allowed.
The mad thing about Uber is how they really should have taken over the world, they should be the one stop shop in virtually every city because they pioneered the concept and had the technology in place yet they've fucked it in so many places mostly because of their business practices. Turns out being a bunch of cunts that pisses everyone off is not always a good business model. Its amazing the amount of places its banned in yet other similar apps are allowed.
maomao
普費斯
Wtf? Did you consider reporting him to the PCO? I'd have told him to stick his paper up his arse.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
The upsides are that they pretty much always know where they're going, you can get five people in them and you can hail them in the street. Most of the time the drivers are ok and I think the vast majority are safe and trustworthy. The only downside is that they're ridiculously fucking expensive.
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emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Do you really think I was making a serious argument there?
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Uber granted London licence as court rules it 'no longer poses a risk'
Ride-hailing service wins appeal a year after TfL refused extension over safety concerns
Now granted the licence, to exactly no-one's surprise.
Doodler
You're quite nice when you smile
Well-off Londoners and maybe the occasional newspaper columnist looking for 'my mate Danny says' material.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Totally agree. Good on Uber. Fuck black cabs.
skyscraper101
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Uber Ruling at Top Court May Change Its U.K. Business Forever
Uber Technologies Inc. is bracing for a ruling from the U.K.’s top court that threatens to alter the firm’s business model in its biggest European market.
www.bloomberg.com
Uber just lost in the Supreme Court.
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