cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
There you go, you learn something new everyday, I thought they were all owner-drivers, and that's why I was surprised they had been classed as being employed.
TfL denied Uber operator license, ride hailing service wins on appeal (Sept 2020)
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There you go, you learn something new everyday, I thought they were all owner-drivers, and that's why I was surprised they had been classed as being employed.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Even if you are owner driver in courier industry some companies want you to be regular. Expect you to work shifts. Actually some companies are now much more flexible as they are worried about implications of these cases. They used to give people hard time if they just took time off or went home "early". Now they are worried that the people they (don't ) employ may be employees.
Some of these courier companies prefer having owner drivers. Having a big fleet is a headache. Just because one owns ones vehicle doesn't mean in practice they are not expected to work the hours.
There is a lot of subtle and not so subtle pressure on people to perform. As drivers are classified as "self employed" apart from no sick pay, etc one can be "let go" for any reason or no reason. It's not like being properly employed employed. No grievance procedure or warnings.
It's affecting other industries like journalism as well. Industries that found having people as freelance made sense- no sick pay, no holiday pay, no redundancy, ability to let people go when work was slack. Self employment / freelancing isn't a real choice for a lot of people. It's just how some industries work.
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Uber licence withdrawal disproportionate, says Theresa May
Nice of her to chip in her tuppence worth
Nice of her to chip in her tuppence worth
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they've offered her a post for when the tories chuck her out, part-time driver
The time has long since passed when anyone gave the slightest shit about what she says. Didn't she speak with Trump about the threat to Bombardier? That certainly did the trick.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
she's been defending the free market in terms of it literally being humanities greatest achievement which would amuse me if I didn't know that most of them believe that. That such a thing exists and that its really the pinnacle of all things ever that humans do
She also said that cadburies had cancelled Easter with a poster. She sings to her Daily Mail lapdogs but everybody else things she's a twit.
not-bono-ever
meh
Did you see the interview clip - even she says nothing, says its badly. How the fuck did this poltroon ever get a job ?
not-bono-ever
meh
being a successful driver involves a multitude of technical and social skills she does not possess
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
The really amazing thing is that up until not long before the election they'd managed to manufacture an image of her being the exact opposite - in control, competent, basically taking charge of things. Not on here perhaps but it was widely believed. Quite some doing given how completely hopeless she looks now.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
'You are at your final location...'
'Er, I'm not. I'm still sitting outside the house. Could you maybe drive the car please?'
'You are at your final location...'
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
shows how ephemeral these projections of power-as-image can be. I was calling her Darth May for weeks. Then the disastrous snap election and greenfell, space of 2 months and now look....
not-bono-ever
meh
every time I see her interviewed, I want to see the interviewer push her a bit on the non committal answer she invariably trots out - maybe they are in awe of her or just cannot be fucked to risk their career by upsetting the party PR team. It is utterly criminal the way she is massaged and never take to task on the spunking cock ejaculate she dispenses
Which is fine until she is lulled into a false sense of security as a result and calls a snap election. At which point, she suddenly comes under proper scrutiny and folds like a 5 and a 2.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I still do, but it's for her autocratic nature and hatred of anything as wishy-washy as human rights that I refer to her so. Darth Maul was on-screen for all of 15 minutes before he died, and Darth Vader made a super battlestation with an obvious self-destruct button. Competency wasn't their strength.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Actually the Death Star exploding was Tarkin's fault. He dismissed the small Rebel strike force as inconsequential and refused to scramble the TIE fighters to intercept them. This left Darth Vader to deal with the Rebel attack using his personal fighter and the only TIE squadron under his direct command.
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Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
And presumably, fuck the 40,000 drivers who now can't feed their families?
Dunno. I'm yet to speak with an uber driver who is unduly worried. They may be putting a brave face on it but the ones I spoke to said whilst its a pain there are loads of ways for them to get work. Obviously it will be different for different people but I've spoken to 5 since this all blew up.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
The will just drive for other firms instead, it's not like uber actually employs them.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Aye, but that can take time. With the benefits system being as agile as a sloth on barbiturates, there will be real hardship.
maomao
普費斯
Just like Uber pushing rates down has caused real hardship. Drivers who work exclusively for Uber have to do an 80 hour week to earn what they earned in 60 hours three years ago. That's real hardship.
Not really. They're all self-employed so they can just pick up work with cab companies with similar arrangements that they already have. This is what I'm being told anyway.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
You should have read the thread, the appeal is likely to take months, so plenty of time for the drivers to sort themselves out. Although I suspect uber will meet whatever conditions are required, to the benefit of both of drivers & passengers alike, to get their licence renewed.
lefteri
Well-Known Member
Thing is under aren't doing anything- it's an algorithm- I imagine it would be fairly hard to write an algorithm that responds quickly to terrorism, real or suspected
lefteri
Well-Known Member
Interesting autocorrect there!
cybershot
Well-Known Member
I'm sure its not difficult for someone in uber towers to override the setting for an area for a pre-determined amount of time. Let's hope the Daily Express's annual revelation of 60ft of snow doesn't happen this coming winter.
lefteri
Well-Known Member
Yeah would probably help but that wouldn't be until news reports got out and would miss the beginning of the problem
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