Spanish Political News

[J Ed]

Particularly the 4th point, the rise of Ciudadanos as an actually successful bourgeois millennial political party is an interesting one and not a phenomenon that I think I understand very well.

If anyone has anything interesting on Ciudadanos in English or Spanish please do share it.

If you read Spanish, this is interesting, actually basically exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.

Ciudadanos: anatomía de un teatro de sombras

 

[Pickman's model]

Spain is more and more like a "low cost" demoracy with more in common with Ankara
than with Copenhagen or Amsterdam.

Yeh. But what do you think?

 

[Anudder Oik]

King of Spanistan wasn't well received in Barcelona yesterday. Mayoress refused to kiss his hand and masses of people did the Cacerolada thing, banging pots and pans.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Other news this week.

The FA banned Guardiola from wearing a yellow ribbon in solidarity with Spain's political prisoners. In response, thousands of Manchester city fans wore them.


A spanish rapper, Valtònyc Was imprisoned for three years for his lyrics about the king being corrupt.
Valtònyc recibe la pena máxima

Anna Gabriel of the anti-capitalist CUP has chosen exile in Switzerland rather than face a spanish kangaroo court.

The international art foundation- Arco - withdrew work from its exhibition in Madrid from a catalan artist which was about the political prisoners.
La obra censurada por ARCO será presentada este lunes en Madrid

 

[The39thStep]

Other news this week.

The FA banned Guardiola from wearing a yellow ribbon in solidarity with Spain's political prisoners. In response, thousands of Manchester city fans wore them.


A spanish rapper, Valtònyc Was imprisoned for three years for his lyrics about the king being corrupt.
Valtònyc recibe la pena máxima

Anna Gabriel of the anti-capitalist CUP has chosen exile in Switzerland rather than face a spanish kangaroo court.

The international art foundation- Arco - withdrew work from its exhibition in Madrid from a catalan artist which was about the political prisoners.
La obra censurada por ARCO será presentada este lunes en Madrid

Fair play to Guardiola he was still wearing the yellow ribbon at Wembley. If he gets a touchline ban it will be interesting to see City fans response ie is his wearing the ribbon a bigger than whats best for the team? The only manager who has brought up the subject of the yellow ribbon is Mourinho, who pretty much said that there is one law for Guardiola and one law for the rest.

 

[Rob Ray]

Neither Madrid nor Brussels nor ... Brussels?

Exclusive: Puigdemont vows to lead Catalan government in exile

 

[Pickman's model]

http://openaccess.uoc.edu/webapps/o2/bitstream/10609/75045/6/sxaudieraTFM0118memoria.pdf

 

[tim]

Spanish judges detain more Catalan politicians and others flee into exile. Seems like a self-defeating act of provocation from the Spanish establishment.

Clashes after Catalan leaders detained
No doubt Anudder Oik is defying tyranny on a barricade but will report back soon.

 

[Pickman's model]

Spanish judges detain more Catalan politicians and others flee into exile. Seems like a self-defeating act of provocation from the Spanish establishment.
No doubt Anudder Oik is defying tyranny on a barricade but will report back soon.

He's defying tyranny from behind his sofa

 

[Pickman's model]

If Anudder Oik won't post it, I will: puigdemont nicked Fugitive Catalan ex-leader detained

 

[Riklet]

Should have known cars across the German Danish border a really bad idea. Shengen has effectively been suspended.

Poor old Carles. Dont really give a shit about him though, so not really. Shows Germany is willing to ship him off on trumped up charges tho. Muti must have had words with Sr Rajoy.

 

[DexterTCN]

Crowdfunders

Defend Clara Ponsati from extradition to Spain

 

[Libertad]

While the Spanish government and the press in Madrid have not stopped talking about violence by citizens and pro-independence groups, this morning they burned the Ateneu de Sarrià and painted it with Nazi and fascist symbols.

Fascists burn Ateneu Popular Workers Centre in Barcelona

 

[Anudder Oik]

Crowdfunders

Defend Clara Ponsati from extradition to Spain

A decent article for a change in the Guardian that desribes Spain's government as increasingly unhinged and reactionary. Of course she shouldn't be extradited.

If the Spanish want a scrap, the Scots will be only too happy to oblige them | Kevin McKenna.

The release of Puigdemont by the german justice system which does not recognize Spanistan's concocted charge of "Rebellion", despite the Judge Llarena writing a demented 200 page extradition order, has been a massive smack in the gob for the state mafia (PP) and their cronies. What were they thinking? That the rest of europe is as corrupt and stupid as they are.

The PP government are currently closing ranks around one of their own, Cifuentes, after it was discovered that the result of her Masters was doctored at the request and interference of the same government. She refuses to resign and instead turns aggressively on anyone who dares to bring it up.

Apart from that, europe's most obnoxious radio presenter, Federico Jimenez Losantos, while frothing at the mouth to his 400,000 strong audience, called for bombs in Munich's cafes after the release of Puigdemont. He got his wish and his followers are busy polluting social media with words like "karma". He also said something should be done to the 200,000 germans in Mayorca, referring to them as hostages. People have been jailed for lesser talk in Spain, but only the ones who don't share the same political ideas as the state.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Interesting tweet

Is Spanistan a fascist country?

 

[Anudder Oik]

While the Spanish government and the press in Madrid have not stopped talking about violence by citizens and pro-independence groups, this morning they burned the Ateneu de Sarrià and painted it with Nazi and fascist symbols.

Fascists burn Ateneu Popular Workers Centre in Barcelona

Here's a photo of the graffiti left by fascists in the Ateneu. It reads Republican defence committees, you are dead.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Below is a photo of Legionaries from spanistan's army during the Easter religious parades that took place last week.
One was opposed in Catalonia by an anti-fascist call out. See below.

 

[Favelado]

Spanistan. Christ.

At least Espanistan would have the right number of syllables. All of the above is disgusting but then we have to remember that you think non-Catalans should go back to where they came from and how unpleasant your takes on things is.

 

[DexterTCN]

Spanistan. Christ.

At least Espanistan would have the right number of syllables. All of the above is disgusting but then we have to remember that you think non-Catalans should go back to where they came from and how unpleasant your takes on things is.

Can you supply quotes for that wanting people to 'go back where they came from'?

 

[tim]

Interesting tweet

Is Spanistan a fascist country?

Is someone who uses terms like SpanISTAN likely to be a bit racist?

Ironically most of the nations that end in it the - stan suffix split from a union with a larger neighbour.

 

[tim]

Can you supply quotes for that wanting people to 'go back where they came from'?

Anudder Oik has clearly expressed his belief that unionists particularly those with familial links with other' parts of Spain are unwanted outsiders.

I do however question the morality of moving somewhere and then actively opposing the historical will of the people there. That for me is an unacceptable colonialiat mentality.

Bearing this in mind it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask how an independent Catalan state would deal with such internal subversives
Would the retain full civil rights? Would they be banned from voting? Would they be encouraged to leave? Would they be expelled?

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Spanistan. Christ.

At least Espanistan would have the right number of syllables. All of the above is disgusting but then we have to remember that you think non-Catalans should go back to where they came from and how unpleasant your takes on things is.

The guy is a cunt.

Time we ignored him altogether.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Spanistan. Christ.

At least Espanistan would have the right number of syllables. All of the above is disgusting but then we have to remember that you think non-Catalans should go back to where they came from and how unpleasant your takes on things is.

He's been very prominent in pushing AfD propaganda talking points.

See e.g. Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations

I think he's a wrong un.

 

[DexterTCN]

Anudder Oik has clearly expressed his belief that unionists particularly those with familial links with other' parts of Spain are unwanted outsiders.



Bearing this in mind it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask how an independent Catalan state would deal with such internal subversives
Would the retain full civil rights? Would they be banned from voting? Would they be encouraged to leave? Would they be expelled?

So that's a no. And disingenuous too.

This place is really shit for discussion these days.

 

[Anudder Oik]

He's been very prominent in pushing AfD propaganda talking points.

See e.g. Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations

I think he's a wrong un.

You are right, the victims, the women who were attacked, should have been abandoned by the left from the simple fact that the right were talking about what happened. Very wise. You are onto a winning strategy there.

On the subject of Spain, it deserves to be called Spanistan (how offensive a word, I must run and cry) at this moment in time because it is a country that is seriously eroding democracy and is unopposed by the vast majority of its own population who are at best accomplices. Cultural fascism is the order of the day in Spain, while progressives are silent and refuse to talk about the political prisoners. The Catalans have had enough and want out, they want no more part of it, and its not about nationalism. They want a republic.

This video below was filmed last week in the south of Spanistan. The population of a village called Coripe turned out on a religious bank holiday with children to celebrate an orgy of collective visceral violence aimed at a mannequin of a child murderer. They queued up to shoot it with shotguns. When the Mayor was asked why he tolerated such a barbaric act he replied that the people thought it was Puigdemont. Now, I ask you, is that a first world attitude?

Whatever you do, don't comment on the video, that would just dissapoint me as I prefer you to just make it about me and my sympathy with The AfD, who are, ironically ideologically allied with spanish unionism.

 

[coley]

A decent article for a change in the Guardian that desribes Spain's government as increasingly unhinged and reactionary. Of course she shouldn't be extradited.

As you say a "decent article"
Something increasingly hard to find in the Guardian these days, with the exception of 'wor George'

 

[tim]

So that's a no. And disingenuous too.

This place is really shit for discussion these days.

It is neither a yes or a no. It wasn't me who asserted Anudder Oik wanted all non-Catalans to return to their region of origin. He may have done but I have no desire to check through hundreds of posts to find out if he has. However, as as he very clearly states in the post I quoted and in many others I can locate that he sees such people as ingratiate incomers whose views count for less than those who he regards as true Catalan, it seems reasonable for me to inquire about how he thinks such people should be dealt with.

 

[Favelado]

The guy is a cunt.

Time we ignored him altogether.

Too much there I think. I'm not calling him that.

 

[tim]

It is neither a yes or a no. It wasn't me who asserted Anudder Oik wanted all non-Catalans to return to their region of origin. He may have done but I have no desire to check through hundreds of posts to find out if he has. However, as as he very clearly states in the post I quoted and in many others I can locate that he sees such people as ingratiate incomers whose views count for less than those who he regards as true Catalan, it seems reasonable for me to inquire about how he thinks such people should be dealt with.

I doubt the moderators would let you get away with Spanrael or Spanistine.

Why don't you cut the racist nomenclature

 

[JuanTwoThree]

The Catalans have had enough and want out, they want no more part of it, and its not about nationalism. They want a republic.

Some Catalans.

I find the use of Spanistan offensive in so many ways. Nobody is under the illusion that La España Negra isn't often backwards and sinister but it doesn't help to compare it with countries whose names end with -stan. You manage to suggest that it's overrun with foreigners, which is what is suggested by out-and-out racists who say Londonistan or Englandstan. Either that or that it's a primitive country like those countries. Equally offensive to all concerned.

Like so many times, you give the impression that you're passing on stuff and using expressions that you don't properly understand. It has to be 'about you' for that reason.