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Spammed by the Synergy Project

Finally managed to download the Companies House Directors reports.
Although these documents are in the public domain, being an old-fashioned liberal, I have deleted the home addresses, as I hold to a general principle of not putting unnecessary personal details onto the web.

[NERD COMMENT]Had no idea Companies House system runs on good old ftp - no wonder my office firewall blocked it[/NERD COMMENT]

Current Appointments Report for THE BRIXTON SYNERGY CENTRE (compiled 05/03/2004)

Company Register Information

Company Number: 04863481
Incorporated on: 12/08/2003
Registered Office:
41 GREENWAY CRESCENT, TAUNTON, SOMERSET TA2 6NG

Company Type: PRI/LBG/NSC/S.30 (Private, limited by guarantee, no share capital, section 30 of the Companies Act)
Country Of Origin: United Kingdom
Status: Active

Nature of Business
(SIC(92)):

Mortgage Number of charges:0 (0 outstanding / 0 part-satisfied / 0 satisfied)

Previous Names: No previous name information recorded over the last 20 years

Key Filing Dates
Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To: Not available (NONE AVAILABLE)
Last Return Made Up To: Not available
Next Accounts Due: 12/06/2005
Next Return Due: 09/09/2004

Last Full Members List: Not available
Last Bulk Shareholders List: Not available


Current Appointments

Number of current appointments : 3

Company Secretary: PEAKE, STEVEN MALCOLM
Appointed: 12/08/2003
Date of Birth: [Not given]
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Company Appointments: 3
Address:
*** ********* ROAD
LONDON
SE27 ***

Director: KAY, JONATHAN JAMES
Appointed: 12/08/2003 Date of Birth: 01/01/1975
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Company Appointments: 2
Address:
*** *********** ROAD
STAINES
MIDDLESEX
TW18 ***

Director: MCKEOWN, PATRICK PAUL JAMES
Appointed: 12/08/2003 Date of Birth: 07/07/1966
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Company Appointments: 2
Address:
*** ******** AVENUE
HAYES
MIDDLESEX
UB3 ***

Recent Filing History

Documents filed since 12/08/2003

DATE FORM DESCRIPTION
01/10/2003 288c DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
12/08/2003 NEWINC INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS, CERTIFICATE OF
INCORPORATION, STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS
& REGISTERED OFFICE, DECLARATION
OF COMPLIANCE, MEMORANDUM OF
ASSOCIATION, ARTICLES OF
ASSOCIATION

This Report excludes 88(2) Share Allotment documents
 
And the other one...
It is unfortunate that the Company Secretary doesn't appear to have informed Companies House of Mr Kay's change of address in this case.

Current Appointments Report for SYNERGY COMMUNITIES (compiled 05/03/2004)

Company Register Information
Company Number: 04863536
Incorporated on: 12/08/2003
Registered Office: 39C THURLESTONE ROAD, LONDON, SE27 0PE

Company Type: PRI/LBG/NSC/S.30 (Private, limited by guarantee, no share capital, section 30 of the Companies Act)
Country Of Origin: United Kingdom
Status: Active

Nature of Business
(SIC(92)):

Mortgage Number of charges:0 (0 outstanding / 0 part-satisfied / 0 satisfied)

Previous Names: No previous name information recorded over the last 20 years

Key Filing Dates
Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To: Not available (NONE AVAILABLE)
Last Return Made Up To: Not available
Next Accounts Due: 12/06/2005
Next Return Due: 09/09/2004


Last Full Members List: Not available
Last Bulk Shareholders List: Not available


Current Appointments

Number of current appointments : 3

Company Secretary: PEAKE, STEVEN MALCOLM
Appointed: 12/08/2003
Date of Birth: [Not given]
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Company Appointments: 3
Address:
*** *********** ROAD
LONDON
SE27 ***

Director: KAY, JONATHAN JAMES
Appointed: 12/08/2003 Date of Birth: 01/01/1975
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Company Appointments: 1
Address:
*** *********** ROAD
LONDON
SE27 ***

Director: MCKEOWN, PATRICK PAUL JAMES
Appointed: 12/08/2003 Date of Birth: 07/07/1966
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Company Appointments: 2
Address:
*** *********AVENUE
HAYES
MIDDLESEX
UB3 ***

Recent Filing History

Documents filed since 12/08/2003

DATE FORM DESCRIPTION
12/08/2003 NEWINC INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS, CERTIFICATE OF
INCORPORATION, STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS
& REGISTERED OFFICE, DECLARATION
OF COMPLIANCE, MEMORANDUM OF
ASSOCIATION, ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

This Report excludes 88(2) Share Allotment documents
 
A fiver well spent. :D

(But I still don't see why you should have to pay a fiver to discover what a local "community organisation" is up to.)

Any idea why no Members Lists are available? Are the companies too new for these to have got on the companies house computer or haven't they got any?
 
Anna Key said:
A fiver well spent. :D

Any idea why no Members Lists are available? Are the companies too new for these to have got on the companies house computer or haven't they got any?

Unable to comment. Have just been rummaging unsuccessfully in the south wing of Rabbie Towers (aka spare room) for old law textbook, as to whether failure to provide this list would constitute breach of duties by company secretary.

Edited to add:
I think I am right in saying that Companies House's first formal requirement would be for a members list to be sent with the annual return. However members of the public have a right to inspect the register of members.
I haven't been able to confirm there is more recent legislation on the subject
thanThe Companies (Inspection and Copying of Registers, Indices and Documents) Regulations 1991

I had forgotten that the duties of a company secretary have never been specified by the Companies Act. However, Companies House does now give some helpful guidance in its
Directors and Secretaries Guide

Special duties
As the secretary is an officer of the company under section 744 of the Act, they may be criminally liable for defaults committed by the company. For example failure to file - in the time allowed - any change in the details of the company's directors and secretary, and the company's annual return.

The secretary may also have to make out a statement of the company's affairs if an administrative receiver or a provisional liquidator is appointed, or if a winding-up order is made. (Sections 47 (Section 66 for Scotland) and 131 of the Insolvency Act 1986.)

Other duties
The company secretary usually undertakes the following duties:
(a) Maintaining the statutory registers. These are:
the register of members (section 352);
the register of directors and secretaries (section 288);
the register of directors' interests (section 325);
the register of charges (section 407 or 422 for Scottish companies); and
for public companies only, the register of interests in shares (section 211).
(b) Ensuring that statutory forms are filed promptly. ...
(c) Providing members and auditors with notice of meetings. ...
(d) Sending the Registrar copies of resolutions and agreements. ...
(e) Supplying a copy of the accounts to every member of the company, every debenture holder and every person who is entitled to receive notice of general meetings - also copies demanded by anyone under section 239 of the Act. ...
(f) Keeping, or arranging for the keeping, of minutes of directors' meetings and general meetings. ...
(g) Ensuring that people entitled to do so, can inspect company records. For example, members of the company and members of the public are entitled to a copy of the company's register of members, and members of the company are entitled to inspect the minutes of its general meetings and to have copies of these minutes.
(h) Custody and use of the company seal. ...
 
The membership list is key. If Synergy hasn't any members then there's no accountability.

We'd be left with two private limited companies controlled by three people stitching up deals with the Council (e.g. £41,000 of public funds for the Synergy Centre) and then forcing their secret deals on the community.

Sorry to keep asking you questions (you don't have to answer them :) ) but what power do members have, should there be any?

Would they be able to sack the Company Secretary (PEAKE, STEVEN MALCOLM) and the two Directors (KAY, JONATHAN JAMES and MCKEOWN, PATRICK PAUL JAMES)?

Would they have a say in forming Synergy policy? Could a member propose a resolution at a meeting of members which, if carried, mandated the Secretary and Directors?

Does it all boil down to the wording of the Memorandum and Articles of Association?

These questions are related to what you wrote earlier:
Some key issues are: what do the Directors get paid, and who is able to become a member to stop the Directors getting themselves re-appointed without scrutiny.
To which Steve responded:
Lang Rabbie - at last, someone who knows what they are talking about.
But failed to answer you.

Which is ironic. Endless guff about hippies. Not a word on who owns the companies, what money is flushing around and how that money is controlled. Typical Blairite politics (and I'd never thought of Blair as a hippy before).
 
lang rabbie said:
Have just been rummaging unsuccessfully in the south wing of Rabbie Towers (aka spare room) for old law textbook, as to whether failure to provide this list would constitute breach of duties by company secretary. :
Let this ever-rummaging, dirt-digging investigative thread serve as ample proof that spamming an online community does not pay!
 
editor said:
Let this ever-rummaging, dirt-digging investigative thread serve as ample proof that spamming an online community does not pay!

Oh he didn't even spam me! I'm far too uncool :)

But I am concerned about where public money from the Raising our Sights programme, which should be benefitting young people in Lambeth, is going.

I couldn't find any mention of Synergy on the Raising Ours Sights website. Given the lack of clarity (to put it mildly) in Synergy's objectives, I would be interested to know which of ROS's programmes they are meant to be helping to deliver, and why they were preferred to other bids:

Raising Our Sights said:
If you would like to apply for funding please contact us first. We’ll be happy to discuss your idea and offer advice on your chances of receiving a Raising Our Sights grant.

We welcome approaches from community groups, voluntary organisations, businesses and others who are committed to raising the sights of young people in Lambeth.

If your project is helping young people develop skills for work, find employment or start their own business then we are particularly keen to hear from you.

UPDATE July 2003!!! - Please note that the ROS programme is currently over-subscribed. However, your project may be placed onto a 'reserve list'. Please contact the ROS Team for further advice.
 
lang rabbie said:
Given the lack of clarity (to put it mildly) in Synergy's objectives, I would be interested to know which of ROS's programmes they are meant to be helping to deliver, and why they were preferred to other bids:
Have you asked Steve for a copy of the Synergy centre proposal?
 
Loki said:
Have you asked Steve for a copy of the Synergy centre proposal?
Not sure if that would help.

I've asked him at least five times to honour his legal obligation and tell me where he got his spam list from and I'm still waiting!
 
he e-mailed me the proposal editor, and said he would send it to anyone who asked. steve @ thesynergyproject.org

I don't know why he hasn't told us the source of the spam list, I thought he said someone would be phoning you earlier in the thread?
 
Loki said:
he e-mailed me the proposal editor, and said he would send it to anyone who asked. steve @ thesynergyproject.org
i'm sure you'll understand why I have no intention of furnishing steve with another confirmed live email address of mine!

And the last thing I want is to be pestered and bothered by phone calls from spammers trying to weasel out excuses for their activities.
 
editor said:
i'm sure you'll understand why I have no intention of furnishing steve with another confirmed live email address of mine!
Well do you want me to forward it to you then? Sure Steve wouldn't mind...
 
Loki said:
Well do you want me to forward it to you then? Sure Steve wouldn't mind...
Thanks for the offer, but I'm not interested in reading anything of his until he's told me where he got his spam list from.

It's a simple request, and his legal obligation too.
 
Loki said:
Have you asked Steve for a copy of the Synergy centre proposal?

Err... if it's a document backing a bid for public funding, couldn't he find room for it on the Synergy website :confused:

I'll PM you a pseudonymous e-mail address
 
Loki said:
despite, if I may say, your and Dub's occasional overly sarcastic posts.

i can't speak for the ed, but i went to quite considerable lengths a couple of pages ago to try and explain why i was so damning of the synergy prohject - it being a combination of my own political/social views and a high degree of annoyance at how steve had conducted himself on this and the other thread. i tried to be fairminded and make some kind of detente possible.

did he respond in kind? did he fuck, loki. so why should i give him the benefit of anything.

as for teejay's posts - sorry, but schaudenfraude (sp?) is a wonderful thing. see, libel and slander somebody as steve did, and there's ALWAYS going to be somebody who knows stuff about you too. the internet's a marvellous thing, and to be honest a lot of teejay's inside stuff confirms a lot of the suspicions i had but didn't really want to get into..
 
lang rabbie said:
Err... if it's a document backing a bid for public funding, couldn't he find room for it on the Synergy website :confused:
Nah. The hippies would moan about it being just so, like, square and boring man.
 
One more time! - Never mind "the proposal", what is actually happening in Brixton, where and when?

Jesus - if "Synergy" can't even tell me that straight then it really does sound like a way or running commercial clubs under the guise of providing "community" facilities and events.

Is this going to be another venture that promises to nurture local talent and delivers little. Remember "Brixton Fashion" - loads of money poured into a building for young clothing makers..... that building is now "Windrush Square".

Mm.

:(
 
hatboy said:
One more time! - Never mind "the proposal", what is actually happening in Brixton, where and when?
Nothing by the looks of it. But I'd be happy for Steve to come on here and prove me wrong. And answer some of our questions.

Interesting to note that Synergy have been "awarded £41k" but that, according to the guidelines, they only get paid a month in arrears (ie you have to actually do something tangible before getting paid) and that the money is only "matched funding" (ie Govt pays half, you pay half). Where would the other half of the money come from? The trance parties at SE1 club?Maybe they didn't make enough cash and cant afford to pay for the "education and training activities for young people" up front? Pure speculation of course, but I watch with interest.
 
Surely everyone knows the score with these "social fund" type things by now? Government wants to sort out "social exclusion" so they set aside a bunch of money to throw at the problem, which is far easier than stopping and asking themselves how their own policies are causing these problems in the first place.

They then pass the issue of what to do with this money this down to a £100k super-dooper strategic head of department at Lambeth Council, who then shunts it down to te muggins medium-to-low-level bureaucrat who is entirely insulated from any kind of openness or public accountability. Locally elected councillors don't have to sign off the money because it comes in under a certain amount, and many of them are party-clone-people in any case (if not then they are dissident loners, with massive 'serious problem' caseloads anyway).

The service-level officer is then expected to get rid of this money somehow in the target wards, despite the fact that the very problem in the first place is that part of the original probelm is that there exists very little in the way of the kind of middle-class people with the training, skills, knowledge and time to swan around and talk the gobble-de-gook, make fancy business plans, register companies and charities, invent fancy spreadsheets showing forward cash projections etc. and hob-nob down at Brixton Town Hall and other funding bodies to grab various funding, all the while supporting themselves off their trust-fund etc.

What then happens is that the bureaucrat is so desperate to get rid of the money (or be judged to have 'failed' and not get their contract renewed) that they will throw the money at *anything* that manages to tick the right boxes on their checklist, regardless of merit or any realistic chance that it will help local people at all. They will also want to show that these projects are successful so when they come with their checklist each year to see if it is "delivering on targets" they will want to see that it has. Typically they will tell people exactly what kind of "feedback" they are going to need to produce a 'success'.

The upshot of this is that any canny "business-person" who fancies milking this source of funding can come in and take the money. They will typically set up a project that benefits themselves, has a glossy brouchure and a newly painted premises that people can go and look at and take photos of. They will do a minimal amout of work - typically indulging themselves and their mates and using the place as an extension of their front room and social life. They will justify their dictatorial style and absolute control on the grounds that the funding can only be given to "properly constituted" bodies and that they need to be entirely responsible for insurance and accounting purposes.

The typical life-cycle of these projects is that the "entrepreneur" will stay long enough to fill in their next set of funding applications for even more moolah - probably somewhere else in London or the country, and after milking the money for three or four years they will shut up shop and piss off, having basically pissed thousands of pounds of public money on their own salary and career advancement. If they manage to somehow achieve anything they will continue with the scam, but typically the level of local dissatisfation and dissent between the users, the locals, the other 'minor' employees and so forth builds up to the point where they feel it is safer to start another scam somewhere else before enough evidence of their total uselessness can become apparent, although people who are so used to being fucked over by the government (eg Capita, benefits, housing etc) will often not get themselves organised into an angry and indignant bunch of citizens who will have it out with the council, unless thyey happen to have a strong tenants group in the first place. Thje thing is that these projects are typially aimed at "excluded groups" in the first place so the users who get fucked over either never even get throught the door in the first place or they are not in the position to organise and complain or read the small print or realise that their money is going on paying for the tosser in the suit who never turns up or never does any work and never provides any meaningful training or work.

To be fair, none of this is actually the fault of either the local council bureaucrat or even the organisations and individuals who have seen an opportunity to effectively "sign on" for a few years and have a cushy job. It is actually a system of government funding that is predicated on there actually being sufficient social capital in the area to take advantage of the money. However, in Lambeth and other inner city areas there simply are not enough "middle-class" (or well established "working class") people or communities that are able to jump through the hoops of matched funding etc, and the very "business" structures that are required for accounting purposes militate against the very kind of low-level, members-based, voluntary, grass-roots groups that really could form the basis of "regeneration" and building up and empowering communities in Lambeth.

No-one in the whole sorry chain really has any advantage in saying that the whole thing is failing, since this would mean being a 'dissident' and 'causing trouble', and people would simply say *they* were failing. Everyone keeps quiet takes their money and moves on in their career, and the poor people just watch it with total disgust and resignation since it has always been thus.

I have to admit that it is a bit of a cheap shot if I try to blame Steve for this situation, but it really sticks in my throat when I see the latest chancer milking the funds in the same old way, and then trying to make grand claims for it on Urban75 (rather than just tryiong to bullshit the council et al). This has been seen time and time again with supposedly well-meaning projects in Lambeth - divorced from local people, led by relatively 'middle-class' people, or at least 'professional-fund-chasers' or the virtual 'del-boys' of the charity world (work in the community as a 'business proposition').

Like I said, South London is a veritable pig-tough for consultants, public employees, fund-chasers and wide-boys to basically gobble up as much money as the government cares to pour into an area that they are incredibily conflicted about - as they gaze from the House of Commons across the river and and feel their hearts bleeding about the waste zone where they have there London pad (Oliver Letwin style) within cycling distance, and maybe only occasionally wonder why their cheques are totally failing to make a single dent in any of the statistics.

OK - here's the message to them all: WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE! Start asking some questions and don't just come down to Lambeth for a shirt-sleeves photo-op with your tongue-up-arse councillors a week before the elections, and brag about your 6 million pounds you just pissed down the drain in front of some of the most deprived people in Europe. Cunts! :mad:

(nb I have a lot of ideas of exactly how you could redesign the whole process of allocating the £6 million etc to local community based projects etc, but basically it is pissing in the wind until people realise that the current system is a total and utter con. The best thing would be to get rid of the fucking useless Lambeth councillors. Conservative, Lib Dem and Labour alike (maybe with the exception of those who have actually shown they are in touch with local groups and will admit that the pig-trough system - as well as the so-called 'consultation exercises' is an insult to local people, and to justice, democracy, openess and accountability) and vote in a Green Party council, along with a whole load of local membership-based, long-term groups and organisations. Why - because they don't deserve any more chances at screwing the thing up.)
 
Excellent post Teejay: I think you've just described the last ten years ofdismally failed government 'yoof' drugs campaigns!
 
steve indigenou said:
Lang Rabbie - at last, someone who knows what they are talking about.

"Synergy Communities, and the Synergy Centre, are both companies limited by guarantee, a structure that specifically forbids the distrbution of profit, but requires it to be spent on the furtherance of the objects of the organisation.

But you don't know this, so you make all sorts of ill-conclusions informed more by your prejudices against 'business' or even 'profit' which are not relevant to our world. Synergy is strutured to protect and respect the effort of the people who do the work, not the self-appointed leader interested only in his self-glorification.

We are open and, to a certain extent, democratic, but feel that these concepts cannot be applied to an extreme, ideologically driven, degree. We have an inequality of experience, effort, energy and skill within our crew and the hierarchy of decision making relfects this.

But if all you want to do is have a go because we don't subscribe to ideologies we think are naieve and ineffective, then you exclude yourself, something I am sure will not cause you to lose any sleep any more than it will us.

So, our relationship with the NGOs is one of symbiotic partnership, they benefit and we benefit. Only those as cynical as the self-styled 'Urbanites' could have a problem with that.

As for the issue of who is the mysterious organisation who shared their list with us ? Hatboy was quoting me incorrectly when I said it was a local organisation.

A lot of thought and experience has informed how Synergy is structured and simple and ill-informed conclusions that because we are a limited company we must be profiteering, undemocatic exploiters do not move the discussion forward."




The problem is this post(shortened down) of Steves does not really give much detail.How exactly is Synergy structured to not exploit people?I think this was the point of raising the issue of running Synergy as a company by Anna-it was internal democracy that was the issue being raised.In what sense can "Democracy" be appied in an extreme ideologically driven way?How does the hierarchy of decision making work in practise?What ideologies are naieve/ineffective?-for example Marxism,Liberalism etc.

Lang Rabbies interesting point was that their is no such thing as a "non for profit" company per se.A company may plough back profits for social ends.

The Eds point about spamming is correct.Their is an attitude that people wont mind etc.Thats not the point- even if 50 people dont mind and one- does- groups should not share their databases.People have a right to privacy.
 
As for Steve saying people here are "cynical Urbanites".Its a bit of an overreaction.Their have been balanced post here-Hatboy,Red Jezza for example and mine I hope which are not just having a go or being cynical.

Its not easy being not cynical however.TeeJays post does ring true in a lot of ways.Unfortunately its also well established locals who can get up to this kind of thing as well-self styled "community leaders".

The problem is structural.This New Labour government , instead of dealing head on with issues of inequality and power, sets up a myriad of schemes to deal with "Social exclusion".Im glad TeeJay put it in adverted commas.I think its a bollox New Labour terminology as well.Its really called poverty/inequality.

Instead of setting up at best well meaning schemes this government could take on the rich and powerful vested interests-I know it wont.

I was at a consultation meeting a while back on an estate.Their were a lot of well meaning community workers etc their and hardly any residents.One of the workers was bemoaning the fact that a recently refurbished hall and computer room were underused.I Thought afterwards that these schemes dont really do much for ordinary peoples lives.Thats why people can appear apathatic.They are actually make a rational choice not to "get involved"(another phrase I hear a lot from the Council).One example of something that would help is decent wages and benefits so people could afford to have a full life rather than scraping by.They could go the cinema,buy a new computer etc.A second example is large funds for social housing so tenants did not have to argue for it at endless meetings.

What Im saying is that micro-schemes-New Deal,Neighbourhood Renewal money etc should be replaced by a governement prepared to change fundamentally the power and wealth inequalites in this country.

Oh dear that train of thought as turned me into an old style Marxist-A Dictatorship of the Proletariat is required :oops:
 
I would like to make it clear Im not having a go at Synergy-as in a limited way it may do some good.I also have met community workers and Councillors who are on a personal level good people.

Its whether any of this will change society fundamentally thats a question.

I also did try to steer the thread from being to personal by raising questions of what "Synergy" is as an ideology as its not that clear from the website.These queries have not been answered.Their are a lot of claims on the site of how "Synergy" will produce social changes.

Im afraid this is where I can sound cynical.Im in the old an old style rationalist.This appears to put me in the minority.I remember a drunken evning in the Albert where Anna and myself were being berated for not believing in Astrology,I Ching etc.Where is Intostella by the way?Always livens up a thread like this one ;)
 
Gramsci said:
I'm an old style rationalist.This appears to put me in the minority.I remember a drunken evning in the Albert where Anna and myself were being berated for not believing in Astrology,I Ching etc.Where is Intostella by the way?Always livens up a thread like this one ;)

Willing to bet that the Astrolobollocksist was relatively sober and that you and Anna were more drunk than him/her ... yet I'm also willing to bet that you spoke a damned sight more down to earth common sense than anyone espousing the the 'It's so narrow minded not to open yourself up to positive post-rational possibilities' wibblers ... :rolleyes:

Excellent post from TeeJay -- depressing, but illuminating! :eek:

Wonder whether or not Steve has a point of view about that particular post?? ;)
 
I'm afraid that far too much of what TeeJay says chimes with my own experience.

One potentially bright spot is that LVAC (Lambeth Voluntary Action Council), after IMO years of drifting without purpose, is using neighbourhood renewal money to finally get its act together. They are co-ordinating the CEN (Community Empowerment Network) voluntary element of Lambeth First (new name for the statutory LSP=Local Strategic Partnership of council, health service, police + "stakeholders"). If CEN member do "network", this could lead to a strengthening of ties between voluntary groups. And, if LVAC can get more practical support to grassroots organisations for (as the god-awful jargon has it) "capacity-building", then maybe more funding will come to them as they become credible in the eyes of the funders.

Having said all this, at the same time Lambeth Social Services is producing contract documents for support to the voluntary sector that would terrify anyone who is not a lawyer or accountant, and rumour has it that at least one group has failed to qualify for renewal of funding because their management committee just couldn't cope with the documents being required. :mad:

So much for joined-up government :confused:

Note for company law addicts only (you know you want more of this stuff :) )
I've updated the post on duties of company secretaries
 
I replied to this thread early on, due to me hating spam, and allready I confess, disliking Steve for his unsolicited attack on Shane, but I continue to be shocked by its' contents.
I cant believe Lambeth has awarded £41,000 to this outfit, that anyone in Lambeth can seriously believe that peoples lives here can be in any way enriched or enhanced by the medium of trance music.
It seems unbelievable in the extreame that anyone could think this would benefit local people, most especially given that any person tempted by this 'enlightening trance experience', has to part with (how much?) fifteen quid as well.
I am shocked theat public funds are being used in this way. I hear a great deal of loud music on my estate, but never ever, hand on heart, the sound of trance. People just arn't into it.
My other thought on this matter, more for Steve really, is that these boards are a real community resourse, more use to the local community than any trance club ever could be, and I am offended by the way he disses everyone here.
 
£41K ain't alot of money if, as i recall, this is to do up the Jan Rebane centre. They ought to be congratulated for getting cash to improve/ open a resource for the community. I think also in Steve's defence, trance has nowt much to do with what they're intending to do at the centre. This thread is pretty mad and some of u Urb75ers just aren't living in reality IMO, Steve hasn't done himself any favours but seems to be a brave venture and i hope it works out for them.

As an example we got £5K from the lottery to do an 'access' radio prog for a year. If you put your mind to it money is there for everyone if your intentions are good.
 
DJWrongspeed said:
£41K ain't alot of money if, as i recall, this is to do up the Jan Rebane centre. They ought to be congratulated for getting cash to improve/ open a resource for the community. I think also in Steve's defence, trance has nowt much to do with what they're intending to do at the centre. This thread is pretty mad and some of u Urb75ers just aren't living in reality IMO, Steve hasn't done himself any favours but seems to be a brave venture and i hope it works out for them.

As an example we got £5K from the lottery to do an 'access' radio prog for a year. If you put your mind to it money is there for everyone if your intentions are good.
have you actually read this thread? the main beefs are against spamming (which is illegal) and Steve's really offputting manner. I also have reservagtions concerning their method of incorporation....but most people want the centre to happen and succeed .
But-where is it?
when?
so let's see it.
and judge then.
 
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