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Spammed by the Synergy Project

steve indigenou said:
So, no answers about the Cannabis Festival's use of email then. What a big surprise.
Well it would help if you actually asked someone who was involved in organising the cannabis festival and specifically the person who was running the email lists and/or possibly the website - which by the way is probably the webmaster or another vlunteer not "you-know-who" who is the licensee. For what its worth I let someone from the festival know yesterday and maybe you will get a response soon, if they come and have a look at this thread, but you are being really unreasonable in demanding that unconnected people somehow answer any questions about this further alleged spamming, spamming which noone else sems to have suffered apart from you. Why on earth the cannabis festival would be sending emails to just you and you alone? How about posting up this offending email so we can see what it looks like?
 
steve indigenou said:
So, no answers about the Cannabis Festival's use of email then. What a big surprise.

afaik they haven't spammed anyone.

Give it up, Steve, you're digging yourself a bigger and bigger hole.
 
steve indigenou said:
So, no answers about the Cannabis Festival's use of email then. What a big surprise.

So I'l ask again. Why is their use of email to promote their event any different from ours ?

One of the reasons I'm so dismissive of your criticisms is that as soon as the object of your criticisms shines the same critical light back at projects close to your own hearts, you generally evade the issue and resort to abuse.
Err, I - and other urban75 regulars - haven't been repeatedly spammed by the Cannabis Festival, and unless you can provide proof of them illegally swapping spam lists and indulging in the kind of wholesale spamming that your organisation is guilty of, then you have no argument whatsoever.

And what's this "projects close to your own hearts" bollocks?

urban75 is not involved in the organising of the Cannabis Festival in any way at all, so what the fuck are you blathering on about Steve? What's it got to do with me or urban75?

But if you'd like a meaningful comparison, here's one:

synergy illegally swaps spam lists and indulges in mass spamming
urban75 does not

Oh, and much as I hate to burst your simplistic bubble of self-proclaimed martyrdom, I don't 'hate' the Synergy Project - as I stated weeks ago, I wish it every success. But I'm not alone in thinking that your massive, bloated ego is proving a huge hindrance to all involved.
 
steve indigenou said:
So No Mike, I don't care if you think we've done ourselves loads of damage. No one really cares what is said on Urban 75 except the people who post themselves.
Looks like the Guardian might disagree with you on that one:

urban75...is one of the sites that has come to embody the fact that cutting edge culture and satire is far more likely to be found on the internet than between the pages of a glossy monthly magazine
Guardian 29/03/04

I could reel off a very long list of mainstream national newspapers and magazines, TV and radio stations who have had very kind things to say about urban75 but - shucks! - modesty forbids me.
 
pooka said:
You should be minded that Urban75 is not some homogenous monolith, as has been pointed out before, but on the Brixton Forum at least, a very heterogenous mix of local people, many active in local networks and politics, and all of whom will now be keeping a critical eye on your enterprise and it's use of public money.
Steve: it's up to you mate but I'd read and re-read the above.
steve indigenou said:
No one really cares what is said on Urban 75 except the people who post themselves. The only exception to this was the Paddick affair, when the site had a big impact outside its own living room.
This is a simple untruth - ask those who tried to turn the old Bike Shop on Coldharbour Lane into a Merrett nightclub - which you believe at your peril.

I think this thread is rather sad. Synergy obviously could - and probably is - doing a lot of good in Brixton. I don't want to sound all luvy-duvy but the two sides should be working together for the common good.
 
If steve really doesn't care what's written on here, why on earth does he keep coming back to reply?

Perhaps steve believes that old adage, that any publicity is good publicity.

As for differences between the cannabis festival and Synergy, isn't it bleedin' obvious?
One is a FREE event, the other...is'nt.
 
steve indigenou said:
You don't listen to the explanations because it's more fun, and certainly easiesr, to criticise than be constructive.
Actually, I - and others here - have given you some very good and constructive advice which you've seen fit to completely ignore (such is your arrogance, you've even refused to acknowledge poster's contributions).

But as I'm feeling generous, I'll repeat some of my tips. Listen up because it night save you money and attract more people to tour site.

Your site is currently a disaster for both search engines and anyone with accessibility issues.

At the very least, you should add a text only navigation and add meaningful titles to your pages and ALT text to your images.

Seeing as you're scooping up taxpayer's money, you may find failure to make your site accessible could result in legal action under the the 1995 Disability Discrimination Act.

And - of course - if you continue to 'swap' email lists and carry on spamming without remorse, you may find yourself having to waste valuable funds on legal costs.

And if you spam me again with another slice of your hippy dippy, middle class, cod-chakra bollocks, I'll be directly contacting your ISP.

I believe this constitutes fair warning.
 
Also, please get rid of the chakra bothering faux spiritual nonsense, all it does is alienate lots of people who you might be trying to reach. Especially seeing as you are trying to get involved in community politics in Brixton. The only people that are going to be impressed by all that Goa nonsense are young middle class student hippy stoner types. I should know - I used to be one. :oops:
 
steve indigenou said:
No one really cares what is said on Urban 75 except the people who post themselves.
You obviously don't subscribe to The Economist then? I'd say it is pretty clear that one of their leader writers from last week had been reading the MayDay thread.

If I were you I'd chose a smaller stage to make a prat out of yourself, until you actually have something to show for all your grand promises. BTW have you actually got youself onto the Lambeth website yet?
Raising Our Sights > projects we fund >
http://www.lambethebp.org.uk/projects/projects.cfm

Theo's ComTech project is on there but your's doesn't seem to be yet, does it? :confused: Or maybe they just haven't updated the website recently?
 
Marvellous PR Skills from our Steve again I see

The strange thing is that Steve's had a number of posters on here, like like Loki and I, who've tried their best to give Synergy a fair go, including visiting their party at SE1. For some reason, Steve seems to have avoided answering our genuine questions and concerns in favour of a hefty dose of paranoid ranting. If in doubt, it seems, blame everyone else.

All we've asked is for further information on what practical projects, asides from the bi-monthly parties, that Synergy is involved with in the local community. And how could someone get involved? Nothing too threatening really?

:confused:

Outside of that, I'm mystified why Steve can't see fit to give an apology for spamming people, despite clear and honest warnings of their legality and appeal. All we're asking is for Synergy to act in a manner befitting an ethical organisation worthy of trust. Spamming people without remorse and using overblown marketing phrases to hype up your position with Oxfam and other organisations doesn't bode well as far as I'm concerned.

And if you're meant to be helping people gain skills in events marketing in future, god help them...

:(
 
tarannau said:
All we're asking is for Synergy to act in a manner befitting an ethical organisation worthy of trust.

And here we have the absolute crux of the matter.
Synergy talks the talk, but cannot seem to walk the walk.
 
Allegations of spamming by the cannabis festival

Greetings,

We have checked and got replies from most of the core group of the festival regarding allegation of spamming.
So far the festival has only sent out press notices on 26.3.04 to the media advising of the revised date for the march and festival.
If anyone has mistakenly got on our press list then please contact [email protected] to be removed, (or to be added to the info list). Our apologies to anyone who has been sent a message in error.
When we get the licence (hopefully) on Tuesday 20th April we will be sending out email flyers.

In the meantime many thanks to the people contacting councillors and Bill Pape at Regulatory Services, and the people volunteering to steward the march.

www.thecannabisfestival.co.uk
 
tarannau said:
The strange thing is that Steve's had a number of posters on here, like like Loki and I, who've tried their best to give Synergy a fair go, including visiting their party at SE1. For some reason, Steve seems to have avoided answering our genuine questions and concerns in favour of a hefty dose of paranoid ranting. If in doubt, it seems, blame everyone else.

All we've asked is for further information on what practical projects, asides from the bi-monthly parties, that Synergy is involved with in the local community. And how could someone get involved? Nothing too threatening really?

<snip>

And if you're meant to be helping people gain skills in events marketing in future, god help them...

:(
Yes as someone who thinks the Synergy Project is a potentially great thing I am still truly baffled why Steve chooses to alienate the project with his intentionally aloof posts and refusal to answer reasonable questions that the local community has every right to ask, it's a community project after all :rolleyes:
 
FFS: guess who just spammed me again, despite promising to remove all references to urban75 from their list?

Yep. The Synergy fucking Project.

And what's worse, because I was in Cornwall, I was checking my email through my mobile phone/PDA so it cost me time and money to receive their unwanted shite.

PS Had a mighty interesting phone call from a very annoyed acquaintance of Steve's while I was away in St Ives.

He definitely wasn't best pleased with finding his organisation's mailing list facility being abused by Synergy's spamming.
 
update: not only have these fuckers continued to spam me, but they shoved their hideous, full-colour, hippy-dippy, fold out leaflets right in front of the Offline leaflets in the Lounge yesterday.

The next time they rudely shove their fucking misspelt, glossy leaflets for a £15 event in front of mine, I'll shove the fucking things right up their holistic celebrations and make no mistake.

I see they're boasting about collaborating with the ESF too...
 
editor said:
update: not only have these fuckers continued to spam me, but they shoved their hideous, full-colour, hippy-dippy, fold out leaflets right in front of the Offline leaflets in the Lounge yesterday.

The next time they rudely shove their fucking misspelt, glossy leaflets for a £15 event in front of mine, I'll shove the fucking things right up their holistic celebrations and make no mistake.

I see they're boasting about collaborating with the ESF too...


but look on the bright side, the increasing amount of fantastic work they've been doing for the community since getting funding has really made a difference. i mean, there's the...




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cunts.
 
editor said:
update: not only have these fuckers continued to spam me, but they shoved their hideous, full-colour, hippy-dippy, fold out leaflets right in front of the Offline leaflets in the Lounge yesterday.

The next time they rudely shove their fucking misspelt, glossy leaflets for a £15 event in front of mine, I'll shove the fucking things right up their holistic celebrations and make no mistake.

I see they're boasting about collaborating with the ESF too...
I FINALLY managed to get my frigging printer working, and put some around clerkenwell, in the effra and 2 pubs on the hill yesterday (apols for tardiness). they prolly did the same there. how RUDE!
I was willing to be fair and open-minded about this lot - TOTALLY. now I'm not. too many warnings, too little changed :mad:
 
editor said:
The next time they rudely shove their fucking misspelt, glossy leaflets for a £15 event in front of mine, I'll shove the fucking things right up their holistic celebrations and make no mistake.

did they stick their flyers over the top of yours? or just next to em? :confused:

im sure they chose their usual tasteful colours so i doubt much else would be visible within five feet of them anyway.....
 
zubaier said:
did they stick their flyers over the top of yours? or just next to em?
They were stuck right in front of the Offline flyers, thus completely obscuring them from view, despite there being ample counter space elsewhere.

And that's something I'd never do and that's why the synergy project are a bunch of cunts.
 
have a cup of chai and

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calm down, dear :D

don't let the buggers get you down
 
Hi all

Bad site that! (To look at and navigate, I mean)

They list their aims and activities but I don't seem to be able to find out what they do other than have parties

They mention going to schools to spread whatever, but they don't seem to list the local schools that they have been to

Where are the workshops held, what community centre's do they inhabit and when - there's nowt on the site

Future events seem to comprise of two parties - their mission statement seems to say they do more

Do they have a place in Brixton that you can go to? Or is there one anywhere? I couldn't find an address


Mebbe it's good stuff they are doing, but the site looks like a party site with the requisite headings of:

Mission Statement
Membership
Forum
Past Events
Future Events
Contact
Links

Where are the headers that actually have summat to do with their mission statement?

They spammed me as well, am I missing something?
 
zubaier said:
does anyone know if they've actually done any of the promised community work?

Well I haven't heard of them actually doing anything locally, despite all the community gumph the Synergy crew have consistently talked about.

The grapevine tells me that one or two connected to the Synergy crew have allegedly visited at least one (slightly hippy-like) festival in Europe - Italy I believe - in the recent past. No idea if this counted as community work, but that's the closest I've heard...
 
editor said:
I see they're boasting about collaborating with the ESF too...
I know a bit about ESF (the European Social Fund) because of my job. Any idea if Synergy have received money from them? Because ESF will normally only fund actual work carried out - i.e. you have to do something, pay for it and claim the money after you've proved you did the work. If they've got any money from them, then I guess they'd be able to prove what work they did.

I'd be interested to know.
 
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