ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
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Sourdough Lane.
Should Tulse Hill in south London - named after a 17th century slave trader - change its name?
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OvalhouseDB
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Of course it's important. It shows what is being valued from the past. This isn't particularly new either. The loathesome racist Louis Agassiz did some noteworthy geology work and had a bunch of academic places named after him in the US. He also believed that black people were a different species from white people and should be treated as inferiors by white people. Being made to walk into the Agassiz Institute, or whatever, knowing that is an insult. That was pointed out and his name was removed as a result.
I don't see this as any different. If people feel the name of a place is an insult to them due to the vile things the person did, the name can and should be changed. It's important when it becomes important - I didn't know there was a Mr Tulse after whom Tulse Hill was named, let alone what he did, but now that I do know, that changes how I feel about it. Of course it does.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
I hear rumours that there has been at least one counter-proposal submitted to the Boundary Commission review of Lambeth Council's ward structure that would split Tulse Hill Ward and lose the name from electoral geography.
(Tulse Hill station is in the current Thurlow Park ward - also named for someone with notoriety as a defender of slavery)
Possibly a revived St. Martin's ward (south of Upper Tulse Hill and including Tulse Hill station/district centre around the gyratory) and a Rush Common ward (north of upper Tulse Hill including the Tulse Hill estate)???
(Tulse Hill station is in the current Thurlow Park ward - also named for someone with notoriety as a defender of slavery)
Possibly a revived St. Martin's ward (south of Upper Tulse Hill and including Tulse Hill station/district centre around the gyratory) and a Rush Common ward (north of upper Tulse Hill including the Tulse Hill estate)???
Marcel Wav
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And we should definitely change the name England too, as it's named after the invading Angles tribe who slaughtered the Britons and wiped them off the face of the land. Bloody Angles. We could all sound like Clannad and Enya now if it wasn't for them.
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hiraethified
Truly awesome logic d00d.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
mx wcfc
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I don't think "we" would call ourselves Welsh in those circumstances. "Welsh" is basically "stranger" or "foreigner" in Anglo-Saxon. Ancient Britons in their language were (and still are) Cymry which means "fellow countrymen" in Brythonic.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
A fair point.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
We could revive Brythonic, like they did with that Manx and Kernewek. I think that J.R.R.R. Tolkien chap did some work on this already... but just for Tulse Hill, mind.
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hiraethified
I was born there. The name is on my birth certificate. I absolutely do not want it re-named. When are these idiots going to start concentrating on the Present and the Future and leave the Past behind? Mistakes were made back then as mistakes are being made today. If we eradicate our history how does that help? Just because something is cancelled it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. #KeepTulse HillName.
tonysingh
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Starry Wisdom
If you were born in hitlerland or thatcherville would you want to keep those just because they were on your birth certificate?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
To be fair, you started too big there. There were plenty of Adolf Hitler Platzes and Straßes post 1945 where the residents were complaining "aber ich bin dort geboren". Probably.
Bahnhof Strasse
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nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
Doubtless, back in the day, those born in Gropecunt Lane were also keen to have the name preserved for the sake of their birth certificates.
Yet the names were changed
ETA: Feel free to fill yer boots with other humorous example from here: Place names considered unusual - Wikipedia
Yet the names were changed
ETA: Feel free to fill yer boots with other humorous example from here: Place names considered unusual - Wikipedia
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A dark day in the history of my birthtown.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Didn't Gene Pitney do a song about it?
Raheem
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You're thinking of Southwark's Gotten Hold of My Heart.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes; they tend to be located by registration district; often some remove from the place of birth.Are you sure OP? My son was born in a hospital local to Tulse Hill and Tulse Hill is nowhere on the birth certificate.
I'm all in favour of binning the name Tulse Hill
Unless the born there poster can post up a photo extract; I also suspect BS.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh me too. On my birth certificate it shows the place, former metropolitan borough, containing the hospital I was born. It doesn't name the hospital iirc but as you say the registration district.
E2a mine has name of hospital and metropolitan borough where it is, and parents' address without local area name, so house number, road, London borough. Nowhere does it say eg Highbury or dalston so another shout for bs
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, I reckon any birth (post 1965 LG reorganisation) will say Lambeth, the registration district for Slave-master Hill, so unless the hospital included the place name in it's title, it's BS.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Can't see the locals going for slave-master hill, something like daffodil hill perhaps
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