Russian military plants/installations 'accidentally' catching fire
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These from a few days ago.
www.theguardian.com
Seven die in fire at Russia defence institute – reports
Fire at a weapons research facility in Tver was followed hours later by reports of a blaze at key chemical plant in Kineshma
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Not sure Ukraine would be be behind these, more likely climate change, but while we're talking about fires in Russia.
euroweeklynews.com
Siberia burns whilst Putin wages war
According to the TASS news agency many Russians are co-opting a pro-war hashtag to raise awareness of fast-spreading wildfires in Siberia and to highlight the government’s inaction.
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Starry Wisdom
Not sure Ukraine would be be behind these, more likely climate change, but while we're talking about fires in Russia.
Siberia burns whilst Putin wages war
According to the TASS news agency many Russians are co-opting a pro-war hashtag to raise awareness of fast-spreading wildfires in Siberia and to highlight the government’s inaction.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Very odd stuff. It does look like the work of some long-range special ops group, but where's the tactical or strategic advantage? The Tver building seems to have been an important design, and in the long-run a major loss for the Russian side - but how is it relevant to short-term battlefield situation?
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Fucking up rear logistics means more units away from the front to guard or fight fires while every bit of fuel burned means less in tanks and aircraft.
Flavour
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It's certainly possible that it's anti-war activists in Russia, but the coordination/timing and the value of the targets suggest military planning. I think it's more likely the work of long-range Ukrainian missiles, the stuff in Bryansk at least. Entirely plausible that there are Ukrainian special forces behind enemy lines too. If these are "civilian" anti-war activists in Russia, they certainly know what they're doing
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Dogsauce
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They did get those new drones from the US announced a few days ago that can fly for 6 hours, though not powerful enough to take out a tank. I guess a fuel tank is a soft enough target, but it looks like they somehow got a whole load of them to go up. Twitter loons are instead suggesting the USA is doing it with a space laser 
There was also a train load of tanks derailed in Bryansk, elsewhere another bit of damage to the railway with a locomotive derailed (allegedly as a result of the fuel depot explosion), a Russian SU34 aircraft crashed, and some sort of attack in Transnistra. A lot of stuff happening today.
It‘s useful tactically for Ukraine not to brag about any of this as it keeps the enemy paranoid and guessing how attacks have happened, not knowing what they need to defend against or how.
There was also a train load of tanks derailed in Bryansk, elsewhere another bit of damage to the railway with a locomotive derailed (allegedly as a result of the fuel depot explosion), a Russian SU34 aircraft crashed, and some sort of attack in Transnistra. A lot of stuff happening today.
It‘s useful tactically for Ukraine not to brag about any of this as it keeps the enemy paranoid and guessing how attacks have happened, not knowing what they need to defend against or how.
The accusation would make the Russian leadership look weak though.
It is also quite plausible that it's on the deniable playbook for a western country supporting the Ukrainian state.
8ball
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Yeah, I wouldn’t expect accusations to start at the top, but I’d be surprised if people aren’t talking.
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This was the third one from around 21st/22nd April. "Korolyov Center for Security and Civil Defense of the Population"
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cupid_stunt
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I suspect this one was a direct strike by Urkaine, as it's only around 15-20 miles from their border.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Yup, I think that's true - the Ukrainians have shown themselves to be masters of the Deeper Battle: using UAV's to target for and correct artillery fire. It allows you to fire out to the ragged edges of your extreme range and still produce effective fire.
It's something we've seen them use time and again, and they get very impressive results - though it helps that for all the talk, the Russian Army is still in peacetime mode: repeatedly lining up 30+ helicopters on airfields within 20km of the Ukrainians for example....
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Maybe it's as simple as Ukraine doing what they can with what they have. They realise they have a reliable asset in Tver (who must have a brass arsehole) so they send him or her round to set the bins on fire at the Institute of Whatever.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Makes sense. I suppose, also in a Russian context where it's still all "command and control" a blow at this or that point will wound the beast in ways it can't compensate for. Even if it just has nuisance value, the beast can't really deal with an accumulation of nuisances.
Bahnhof Strasse
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I read earlier that was an under-construction medical facility.
Last night there was a car fire in Moscow too, which consumed seven cars leading to reports of explosions.
Fires happen every day in most cities.
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These were a few days ago and definately not "accidental".
www.themoscowtimes.com
5 Russian Enlistment Offices Hit By Arson Attacks – Reports - The Moscow Times
As many as five Russian military enlistment offices have been set on fire since the start of the invasion of Ukraine, independent Russian media reported Thursday.
