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They seem to be getting desperate for a quick fix to becoming a credible electoral alternative. Charismatic person with media interest seems to offer the chance of a bit more exposure. They're probably willing to overlook the (considerable) downsides.Just read a Facebook debate between sp members during which someone said they wouldn't be comfortable campaigning if TUSC got an endorsement from Russell Brand or having his name on the leaflet. The replies were things like 'criticising brand for his wealth is helping the class enemy' and comparing Russell Brands support to using an iPhone.
I know that I am not supposed to care about what the sp do as im no longer a member of it but it made me go and then
They seem to be getting desperate for a quick fix to becoming a credible electoral alternative. Charismatic person with media interest seems to offer the chance of a bit more exposure. They're probably willing to overlook the (considerable) downsides.
what, a post by articul8 which makes some vague sense?I couldn't believe what I was reading.
He refers to the Labour Party as "the Marxist Party". Fucking hilarious. Does Miliband know about this sudden change in his party's ideology?This is laurence easeman fb by the way which is public.
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007420129082&fref=ts
its the old one where links to organised labour= giant zombie lenin destroying the world.He refers to the Labour Party as "the Marxist Party". Fucking hilarious. Does Miliband know about this sudden change in his party's ideology?
A disgruntled former comrade I was chatting to last night reckons their trying to recruit him
"Say what you like about Adolf, but he's always kind to his pets".
Well, except for Blondi the Alsation, who he shot in the head.
I can't see that and certainly can't see Brand accepting. If you read his book he is more into the sort of direct action, anti-election anarchism of people like David Graeber than any brand of trostkyism or vanguardism. In fact he specifically repudiates leadership:A disgruntled former comrade I was chatting to last night reckons their trying to recruit him
And he writes (or his ghost-writer does) admiringly of the Spanish Revolution as described by George Orwell in Homage to Catalonia. I would have thought he'd be more likely to join the Anarchist Federation than SPEW. But I imagine he won't endorse any particular group but, like Chomsky, all those committed to direct action and future society as a federation of self-administering communities.The answer to the quandry of how to reorganise society isn't new leaders within the system, the answer isn't leaders at all. The answer is, of course, simple: we can run our own lives and our own communities.
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You would of left her to the less than kind mercies of the Eastern horde?Well, except for Blondi the Alsation, who he shot in the head.
The AF wouldn't let him in my diggy hostility clause mate.I can't see that and certainly can't see Brand accepting. If you read his book he is more into the sort of direct action, anti-election anarchism of people like David Graeber than any brand of trostkyism or vanguardism. In fact he specifically repudiates leadership:
And he writes (or his ghost-writer does) admiringly of the Spanish Revolution as described by George Orwell in Homage to Catalonia. I would have thought he'd be more likely to join the Anarchist Federation than SPEW. But I imagine he won't endorse any particular group but, like Chomsky, all those committed to direct action and future society as a federation of self-administering communities.
Celebritisation and the result- seen it in scotland.I'm really fucked off by the fact the sexism stuff surrounding rb seems not to be an issue with the socialist party at all. I mean I shouldn't be surprised but jesus.
I can't see that and certainly can't see Brand accepting. If you read his book he is more into the sort of direct action, anti-election anarchism of people like David Graeber than any brand of trostkyism or vanguardism. In fact he specifically repudiates leadership:
And he writes (or his ghost-writer does) admiringly of the Spanish Revolution as described by George Orwell in Homage to Catalonia. I would have thought he'd be more likely to join the Anarchist Federation than SPEW. But I imagine he won't endorse any particular group but, like Chomsky, all those committed to direct action and future society as a federation of self-administering communities.
Are you sure that's what "liquid democracy" implies? According to this entry on wikipedia it doesn't sound a bad idea. It seems a bit like the system of "mandated delegates" that Marx praised the Paris Commune for and that Lenin claimed the Russian soviets were based on.Franco could be beat via 'liquid democracy'. That is if you like a tory candidates position on one thing vote for them via the internet.
sadly all stuart christie had with him was the 'solid democracy'.Franco could be beat via 'liquid democracy'.
I'm 100% sure that it is how brand used it. To compare it to 1871, grow up.Are you sure that's what "liquid democracy" implies? According to this entry on wikipedia it doesn't sound a bad idea. It seems a bit like the system of "mandated delegates" that Marx praised the Paris Commune for and that Lenin claimed the Russian soviets were based on.
Anyway, that's not the point. Is it being advocated by Brand and others for making political decisions now under capitalism or to be implemented after capitalism has been abolished? Not the same.
You could be right about Brand. Maybe he did have in mind what the Pirate Party propose. I don't know. But it wasn't me who made the comparison to 1871 in Paris but whoever wrote the wikipedia article I gave a link to. This is what it says:I'm 100% sure that it is how brand used it. To compare it to 1871, grow up.
Some other organisations are run on the same basis.The internal policies of the Paris Commune are seen as the real-world precursor to the more formalized notions of modern delegative democracy.[citation needed]
Early Soviets,[2] before a Bolshevik majority was reached. Delegative democracy was gradually eroded in favor of more representational forms of governance.
The Industrial Workers of the World labor union uses multiple levels of democracy, including delegative democracy. Local branches are controlled directly democratically by local members. These branches once per year elect, and vote on direction for, delegates to send to a yearly general convention, at which they carry out deliberations and construct referendums. The convention has no power to make and enforce decisions on its own; changes are accomplished by way of mailed referendum ballot. This yearly ballot is also used to elect members to various union administrative roles. Alternatively to the delegative process, members may add proposals to the ballot by initiative.
You could be right about Brand. Maybe he did have in mind what the Pirate Party propose. I don't know. But it wasn't me who made the comparison to 1871 in Paris but whoever wrote the wikipedia article I gave a link to. This is what it says:
Some other organisations are run on the same basis.
Its not looking good
Just putting this here
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Russell brand pua
There's a string of associations with 'pickup artists' dating back years.
I could only see Neil Strauss (didn't watch the youtube vid), from 2011, and then lots of posts on pua blogs/forums about Brand. Grim, obviously, but people need to be given space to change and iirc he's said he's trying to address his sexism, he needs to be given space to show that he is, his denouncement of Julien Blanc does show that, although if he's not said anything about Neil Strauss in that, or his past association with at least one pua wanker, then that's a bit suss really.
I suppose I should see exactly what he's said recently about his sexism, but I certainly cba tonight.