Russell Brand on Revolution

[cantsin]

My point is that loads of people dislike him for his tv/comedy career.

so to conclude : "he's not the messiah" and "loads of people dislike him" . Fair do's.

 

[butchersapron]

What's with the cardigan shaming?

I think - going by his past mad rants at me anyway - that's it's something about Darth Vader and me/us representing the father he has to rhetorically kill now that he rejects our evil ways. He's mixed it up with Peter rejecting Christ thrice and brand now being The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner though

 

[cantsin]

will be interesting, what with the live audience share decided by Parliamentary seats (or however).

I suspect Farage + others will keep going for the ' how rich are you/ hypocrite' line on RB, and it's going to be a a tough gig for him.

 

[Citizen66]

Is that really how you see ordinary people who want change but not via the earnest shrieking as so often seen here?

No. It's how I see people who think change can come about through some poster boy who is entirely unconnected to the interests they think he represents.

 

[krtek a houby]

I think - going by his past mad rants at me anyway - that's it's something about Darth Vader and me/us representing the father he has to rhetorically kill now that he rejects our evil ways. He's mixed it up with Peter rejecting Christ thrice and brand now being The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner though

How ironic. I'm offering up my tuppence worth on the popularity of Brand and why he might appeal to ordinary folks and yet you and your familiar persist in making it all about me. Brand speaks to a lot of people out there, including those who may not be as well versed in change as others here are. Despite his celeb status (or maybe because of it) he's awakening a zeitgeist, a possible shift of consciousness and conscience that could lead to something good. But please, carry on the ad hominems and accusations, rather than attempt dialogue. It's what you do best.

 

[Citizen66]

It's like having another Bono.

 

[krtek a houby]

No. It's how I see people who think change can come about through some poster boy who is entirely unconnected to the interests they think he represents.

"poster boy". How lazy. And all those hundreds of thousands of us, maybe millions. I guess we're sheep, as well.

 

[krtek a houby]

It's like having another Bono.

It's nothing of the sort. Sure, he'll eventually be shot down by the warring, infighting left and corporate media combined but in the meantime, there's hope.

 

[butchersapron]

How ironic. I'm offering up my tuppence worth on the popularity of Brand and why he might appeal to ordinary folks and yet you and your familiar persist in making it all about me. Brand speaks to a lot of people out there, including those who may not be as well versed in change as others here are. Despite his celeb status (or maybe because of it) he's awakening a zeitgeist, a possible shift of consciousness and conscience that could lead to something good. But please, carry on the ad hominems and accusations, rather than attempt dialogue. It's what you do best.

Kill the cardigan inside yourself krtek.

 

[Idris2002]

 

[Citizen66]

"poster boy". How lazy. And all those hundreds of thousands of us, maybe millions. I guess we're sheep, as well.

Nah. Just boring old consumers.

 

[butchersapron]

"poster boy". How lazy. And all those hundreds of thousands of us, maybe millions. I guess we're sheep, as well.

Do it quick before it's too late!

 

[Citizen66]

I'm looking for an off-the-shelf revolutionary myself for my stocking this year. Any suggestions? I'd like an action one with plenty of accessories if at all poss.

 

[Pickman's model]

From the guy who'd probably be hiding behind his bigger mate as he said such a thing.

It doesn't matter what I want; it matters to a lot of people out there who would want change but people like you and your hectoring master put them off voicing their concerns.

you're very good at supporting sexists. have you ever tried supporting someone who wants positive change for everyone, whether they've a cock or not?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm looking for an off-the-shelf revolutionary myself for my stocking this year. Any suggestions? I'd like an action one with plenty of accessories if at all poss.

have you tried the all-action lucy parsons? or voltairine de cleyre?

 

[krtek a houby]

Do it quick before it's too late!

So, you still won't discuss the topic? You're correct though; it's not all about me. But you seem hell bent on making it so.

RB is making waves. They may not foam to your precise elitist requirements and you can jeer all you like but here is someone raising awareness & is lucky to have a "celeb" status platform to do so which elicits a lot of response. And you can't see any good in it, whatsoever.

 

[Citizen66]

I want stardust.

 

[Pickman's model]

So, you still won't discuss the topic? You're correct though; it's not all about me. But you seem hell bent on making it so.

RB is making waves. They may not foam to your precise elitist requirements and you can jeer all you like but here is someone raising awareness & is lucky to have a "celeb" status platform to do so which elicits a lot of response. And you can't see any good in it, whatsoever.

yes. he's raising awareness. but what is he raising awareness of?

 

[butchersapron]

So, you still won't discuss the topic? You're correct though; it's not all about me. But you seem hell bent on making it so.

RB is making waves. They may not foam to your precise elitist requirements and you can jeer all you like but here is someone raising awareness & is lucky to have a "celeb" status platform to do so which elicits a lot of response. And you can't see any good in it, whatsoever.

Here's someone that hasn't bothered to read the thread but would rather jump to conclusions from their own rabid prejudices and then spew them all yet another thread. Just stop doing this.

 

[Citizen66]

So, you still won't discuss the topic? You're correct though; it's not all about me. But you seem hell bent on making it so.

RB is making waves. They may not foam to your precise elitist requirements and you can jeer all you like but here is someone raising awareness & is lucky to have a "celeb" status platform to do so which elicits a lot of response. And you can't see any good in it, whatsoever.

If I get my booky wook for christmas and you get his dvd can we do swapsies for a bit?

 

[Citizen66]

yes. he's raising awareness. but what is he raising awareness of?

I'll have a stab at this. Is the answer Himself?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'll have a stab at this. Is the answer Himself?

it's not bloody positive change, that's for sure.

 

[cantsin]

I'll have a stab at this. Is the answer Himself?

easy thing to throw at him - The Sun /DM / assorted wrong uns doing so all the time - but am pretty sure E15 Mums / New Era campaign wldnt agree - the One Show last night managed to not mention RB until the end of really decent , primetime piece on New Era ( very unusual piece for them ) - you knew they were there ( to some degree ) cos of him, but he'd obviously ( and v rightly ) declined to go on it = NE tenants get another serious little boost to the campaign . Definitely all a bit more Soc of the Spectacle than What Is to Be Done, but positive nonetheless.

 

[Brechin Sprout]

have you tried the all-action lucy parsons? or voltairine de cleyre?

I thought they were dead? Or do you hand out tracts by them when you're not wittering on here?

yes. he's raising awareness. but what is he raising awareness of?

you're the person who decides, then? You only favour those who come with a fully-formed manifesto ratified by you? Asking questions isn't good enough, he must supply THE answer, too?

 

[Citizen66]

The reason why he doesn't just get on stage, call the middle classes cunts and then fuck off home like Bill Hicks or George Carlin is because he isn't as funny as them. He needs something more. To become John Lennon. And get into Jemima Khan's knickers.

 

[Citizen66]

I thought they were dead? Or do you hand out tracts by them when you're not wittering on here?

you're the person who decides, then? You only favour those who come with a fully-formed manifesto ratified by you? Asking questions isn't good enough, he must supply THE answer, too?

Moctor Herbz? Or Boresome Wells?

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought they were dead? Or do you hand out tracts by them when you're not wittering on here?

and what if they are dead?

you're the person who decides, then? You only favour those who come with a fully-formed manifesto ratified by you? Asking questions isn't good enough, he must supply THE answer, too?

if he's a sexist pig then it's unlikely the answer's he comes out with are going to be that useful.

 

[Citizen66]

Shocking misuse of the apostrophe there.

 

[caleb]

Farage and Brand are two sides of the same populist, right-wing coin.

Actually with his willingness to be an apologist for antisemite like David Icke, what's stopping Brand from becoming the British Dieudonne?

 

[cantsin]

Farage and Brand are two sides of the same populist, right-wing coin.

Actually with his willingness to be an apologist for antisemite like David Icke, what's stopping Brand from becoming the British Dieudonne?

silly