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Russell Brand on Revolution

It's not like Russel Brand is the actual messiah. He isn't Jose. "The World Food Programme thinks that I am not ready to go immediately to a super-hard environment. I must grow up, step-by-step. I am the naive manager who is getting the job for the first time. I am eager to learn. I am full of desire. I am also naive."
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/may/19/jose-mourinho-un-ambassador-against-hunger

See. Jose gets that whole hollow-out-the-whatsit thing. *touches nose and points at everyone*
 
Citizen66 said:
A lot of CTers are coming from the angle that international capital is bad, Newspapers lie to them, the CIA aren't to be trusted and will manufacture circumstances to suit their own ends.

The more mature view can see the whole CT package and dig deep and discover the politics behind the veneer. The problem we find ourselves in is we then start to denounce everyone following this mode of thought which repels those going through the inquisitive period away from those of us who are apparently enlightened. Shouting racist at every CTist hasn't proved successful towards swelling our ranks.
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Same with shouting racist at ukippers but many brand fans happy to do just that. Agree with you though (and I'm think it's really important to expose the racism behind icke etc)
 
Citizen66 said:
The other thing to remember is that with the likes of heroes like Brand, if the establishment feel threatened enough they'll come to the table and deal. But the deal will be with Brand and his choice will be to accept or they'll ruin him. What would he choose? Will the women fighting for their homes be invited to the table? He needs to fuck off and get back to telling shit jokes and selling books about himself.
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am confused, what precedents are you looking back at that tell you that :

"The other thing to remember is that with the likes of heroes like Brand, if the establishment feel threatened enough they'll come to the table and deal. But the deal will be with Brand and his choice will be to accept or they'll ruin him." ??

Why would Brand start 'dealing' at any table ? He's already shown re : New Era, that he's aware of the think line between visible supporter /and distraction ( eg : not appearing on One Show last night ) , am sure he's not deluded enough to start thinking he' should be 'dealing' with 'the establishment' in place of the movements and forces he's trying ( rightly or wrongly) to assist ?
 
Farage will 'win', that's how it works. Brand will just tie himself up in impenetrable language.
 
Citizen66 said:
Anyway, I know a few folk on the left to have had excursions in Icke-ville, myself included, which can be a right of passage for many stabbing around in the dark for answers. His is just more public than most. It's forgivable but there has to be a denouncing of it to signify you're not still entertaining views shared with the NF, amongst others.
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Is denouncing it enough though? The casual racism, sexism and not so casual homophobia that I experienced 'doon thi pit' was considered perfectly normal back then and there are a few today,in fairly public positions, who wouldn't want their 'bait time crack' of 20 years ago, aired in public.
Now it's perfectly possible and hopefully the case,that they have matured and regret the positions and opinions they held then, we are talking of a generation that grew up in the 60s and 70s.
But the likes of Brand and Ross? Any renunciation on their part is, IMO, PR damage limitation.
Arseholes the pair of em.
 
Didn't he call one of the panelists 'love'? Bit backward. I use the term lazily on occasion but not if I'm on the telly doing QT with a majority female panel. :D

Didn't make a dick of himself overall.

Thought he was outclassed by the two women MPs. (don't know their names and don't particularly care).

Dissapointing.
 
coley said:
Twats working on re inventing himself, nowt wrong with love, or me love or similar, all depends on the context,
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It tends to get said to either gender up north :)
Thing is with using it on QT, i have a sneaking suspicion he wouldn't have said it to a bloke (which i guess is backed up by brand picking himself up on it)
 
coley said:
Christ on a crutch, when socialism can regard the likes of Brand as a leading light, then we are all screwed.
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The only people on my fb feed who've been celebrating him are a swp member, and someone i used to know who's all 'stay open minded about chemtrails' and sharing david icke stuff :facepalm:
(this may be more suited to the fb annoyances thread tbf)
 
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tufty79 said:
It tends to get said to either gender up north :)
Thing is with using it on QT, i have a sneaking suspicion he wouldn't have said it to a bloke (which i guess is backed up by brand picking himself up on it)
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Naw, doon sooth, Cornwall or theraboots, IIRC, up here its "pet, or bonnie lass" though on a national televised debate? Bugger it, I would love to tell Theresa May, whey haddaway ti Shyte bonnie lass.
But shamefully I must admit, I would like the opportunity to continue the discussion with her, on dialect over a few bottles in a hotel bedroom.
Forgive me Urbs, I am weak in matters of the flesh:D
 
coley said:
Naw, doon sooth, Cornwall or theraboots, IIRC, up here its "pet, or bonnie lass" though on a national televised debate? Bugger it, I would love to tell Theresa May, whey haddaway ti Shyte bonnie lass. <snip>
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The other side of the Pennines, luv and mate are generally used for either sex.
 
Many people across the UK are waiting in eager anticipation for the battle between Russell Brandand Nigel Farage on Thursday night's BBC Question Time programme (11 December).


Eager anticipation? Really? :facepalm: :D
 
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