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Remainers: When are you taking to the streets?

That suggests UKIP vote down with Labour and Conservative bang on equal, Labour vote up from last time. Fuck the Corbyn haters.

Also 43.7% of voting 18-35 voted leave (35.5 leave, 45.7 remain; for her own sake let's ignore the daft young female who can't remember how she voted a few days ago). It's not quite the same as other stats we've seen. Regretful remain minus regretful leave suggests still a leave result.

Who the hell is voting for Jeremy Cunt FFS? And who are these people who want Boris as PM? Oh, got to the end, bad bad bad for Corbyn, but no obvious leader options either.
 
This could have gone in any number of threads tbh...
The rally today in Trafalgar Square was officially called off after 50,000 people said they would attend, but many turned out regardless and then moved down Whitehall to continue their protest in Parliament Square.

Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron addressed the crowd in Trafalgar Square insisting that the Brexit vote “is reversible”.
The Lib Dems have vowed to campaign to take the UK back into the EU.

Farron said: “In politics, as in life, two things are always the case for me: One, if you lose, you have the grace to accept the defeat, but you never, ever, ever give up. We as a community must stand together, this is reversible. The people of Britain are decent, outward-looking people. We will carry on direct campaigning.”
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LD logic.
 
Anudder Oik said:
Here's one already on the street. A lovely girl but have to say she doesn't do the remainers any favours and seems quite confused about the cost of travel to France.

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I just noticed that this video is by Graham W Phillips famous for his pro-Russia Ukraine 'embedded reportage' stuff.

On checking out his youtube channel I see that his recent stuff also includes 'interviewing' (ie harassing) Ukraine supporters on their way into their game versus Germany seemingly in an attempt to get footage of them attacking him. He also recently went to the Jungle in Calais and walked around randomly shoving his camera into peoples faces and barking questions at them until he eventually got 'kicked out'.
 
classicdish said:
I just noticed that this video is by Graham W Phillips famous for his pro-Russia Ukraine 'embedded reportage' stuff.

On checking out his youtube channel I see that his recent stuff also includes 'interviewing' (ie harassing) Ukraine supporters on their way into their game versus Germany seemingly in an attempt to get footage of them attacking him. He also recently went to the Jungle in Calais and walked around randomly shoving his camera into peoples faces and barking questions at them until he eventually got 'kicked out'.
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He's proper nutjob but proper RT. Walking through a warning flare = full on fascist attack. He joined UKIP last year.
 
So, that Remain protest in Westminster this evening...

What are their demands exactly? That Parliament ignore the democratic result of the referendum? :hmm:
 
Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron addressed the crowd in Trafalgar Square insisting that the Brexit vote “is reversible”.
The Lib Dems have vowed to campaign to take the UK back into the EU.

Farron said: “In politics, as in life, two things are always the case for me: One, if you lose, you have the grace to accept the defeat, but you never, ever, ever give up. We as a community must stand together, this is reversible. The people of Britain are decent, outward-looking people. We will carry on direct campaigning.”
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Won't get fooled again? surely these are students or young graduates, how easy they forget.
 
I promised myself I wouldn't look at Guardian comments for a while...the flesh was weak I'm afraid...this cracker from Monbiot's article.
Carlossie 10m ago
In a misguided affirmation of the result the author refuses to acknowledge that there is no democractic "right" for a majority (and a very slim one) to permanently damage the lives, property and futures of a minority (that is almost as big). Only supermajorities of 65% or more have the authority to take decisions of that seriousness. There is no case for treating the referednum result as "sacred" even if it were not the outcome of lies and fantasies (on both sides) and the responsibilty in many cases of people with no stake in national life, no adequate understanding of the issues, or concern about the people who would pay the price.
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Corax said:
So, that Remain protest in Westminster this evening...

What are their demands exactly? That Parliament ignore the democratic result of the referendum? :hmm:
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It's as good a demand as any other. Other people can demand other things.

Parliament claims sovereignty. There's no constitution or precedent to determine what happens next, just balance of forces.

Nothing can happen until parliament- both houses- pass a law. In the runup 70% of MPs wanted to stay in, I doubt many lords want out, so getting that law through could be very difficult. With both parties in chaos, effective 3 line whips are less credible than cross party alliances. With so much at stake, and the population split, backbench MPs are going to have to use the power we handed them. Each of the 70% will have to decide whether to vote with their conscience or against it because the population as a whole has spoken. So where does that leave the arithmetic?

What happens, prior to a GE, if a majority simply refuse to pass the legislation?
 
newbie said:
It's as good a demand as any other. Other people can demand other things.

Parliament claims sovereignty. There's no constitution or precedent to determine what happens next, just balance of forces.

Nothing can happen until parliament- both houses- pass a law. In the runup 70% of MPs wanted to stay in, I doubt many lords want out, so getting that law through could be very difficult. With both parties in chaos, effective 3 line whips are less credible than cross party alliances. With so much at stake, and the population split, backbench MPs are going to have to use the power we handed them. Each of the 70% will have to decide whether to vote with their conscience or against it because the population as a whole has spoken. So where does that leave the arithmetic?

What happens, prior to a GE, if a majority simply refuse to pass the legislation?
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Take it you voted Remain?
 
If it came to a "will we / won't we" vote then MPs should really vote according to their constituents, so some on the leave side should be voting with remain and of course vice versa. Actually of course what they should be doing right now is accepting the decision and setting up cross party committees to review various aspects of the thousands of small decisions that will be needed to manage the change and build UK confidence (for businesses here and overseas), prepare for and manage negotiations, as well as cooperating on the future plans for the UK.

Fat chance of any of it while they're staring up each other's arseholes in the hope of promotion though. They'd rather have the UK look incompetent so the markets get worse than miss a minor improvement for themselves in seating position.
 
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