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Remainers: When are you taking to the streets?

In 2014 Spain's government said Scotland's EU bid could take several years. No actual refusal that I recall. I would wager things might be different this time should Scotland vite for independence. It's not as if Catalonia has the grounds of being taken out of the EU to support a bid for independence.
 
Would an independent Scotland within the EU be one of the countries that would receive more than it pays in? How would the taxpayers of the net contributor countries feel about that after losing the contributions from the departing rest of the UK?
 
Guess Scotland would be a net beneficiary, but hey, the EU would no longer have to worry about the inward collapse of a member state.
 
Well it seem they are in Manchester. From the title -Manchester Stays- it seems like anti-democratic whiners calling for the referendum to be ignored. The blurb is actually quite good and what should be happening- accepting the leave decision, a show of solidarity with EU workers in the UK and a leave campaign can be pushed in a progressive direction. Unfortunately the comment indicate it'll be a bunch of anti-democratic whiners calling for the referendum to be ignored. :facepalm:
 
Why would people protest? It was a referendum, protesting against a referendum would be ridiculous

A lot of people are really upset and based on the reaction of the 'winners' to me it seems like an incredibly stupid decision. Not that exit people are thick, just that this was a fucking stupid decision and the whole thing has been a depressing shitshow
 
I've protested against plenty of "democratic decisions" in the past.

The more people out on the streets the better at this point.

(Not that I support calls for a 2nd ref or to ignore the result or anything like that. I don't. But let's get all sides out against Westmibster now.)
 
I've protested against plenty of "democratic decisions" in the past.

The more people out on the streets the better at this point.

(Not that I support calls for a 2nd ref or to ignore the result or anything like that. I don't. But let's get all sides out against Westmibster now.)

I don't protest because the it just seems like protests are a circus. I don't live in England anyway, I don't pay taxes or live there so I don't really have the right to vote on things like this, I am really upset that I am going to lose my EU citizenship and that the UK and the EU have got this big kick in the nuts, both institutions do deserve to be kicked in the nuts, but there are much worse alternatives on offer.
The idea that this is going to trigger socialism and sort out Yorkshire, Durham and Wearside is fucking ridiculous to me. The North East has been treated like shit for decades, but that wasnt' what the referendum was about!
 
I just don't see what the purpose of these demonstrations is.
I've protested against plenty of "democratic decisions" in the past.

The more people out on the streets the better at this point.

(Not that I support calls for a 2nd ref or to ignore the result or anything like that. I don't. But let's get all sides out against Westmibster now.)

They're not out against Westminster though. They're out against the electorate.
 
Arguably the electorate didn't vote for that exact thing, like they did in the EU ref. Plus a lot more people voted to Leave than voted for the Tories...
Meh. Of exact things, 'Leave' is arguably more vague than the Tory mandate, at least in 2015 after that stall had been well and truly set out. Leave to do what?
 

If we leave the EU then yes, once it's all gone through I'm not an EU citizen anymore, I work in EFL and I'll have to pay to work in European countries if I want work there now, and probably spend a month in a concentration camp with Nigel Farage throwing souvenirs of London buses and telephone boxes at me while I stitch Man Utd footballs together
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!
 
Why should the will of a (small) majority be sacrosanct if it fucks over everybody else? At the last elections a democratic mandate was won to fuck the 25% poorest people up the arse - with the affluent old leading the charge cos they saw it as benefitting themselves- should those affected just roll over and accept it cos "democracy"?
With the brexit cluster fuck - 16-18 year olds, who will be affected more than anyone, were excluded from voting whilst those who will be least affected - the over 60s - voted overwhelmingly for out.
It was insane to put such a drastic change to a simple 50/50 referendum decision on a yes/no answer. Thats not meaningful democracy - that's not engaging people in the decision making process - its an easily manipulated, distorted pile of bullshit.
 
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Why should the will of a (small) majority be sacrosanct if it fucks over everybody else? At the last elections a democratic mandate was won to fuck the 25% poorest people up the arse - with the affluent old leading the charge cos they saw it as benefitting themselves- should those affected just roll over and accept it co "democracy"?
With the brexit cluster fuck - 16-18 year olds, who will be affected more than anyone, were excluded from voting whilst those who will be least affected - the over 60s - voted overwhelmingly for out.
It was insane to put such a drastic change to a simple 50/50 referendum decision on a yes/no answer. Thats not meaningful democracy - that's not engaging people in the decision making process - its an easily manipulated, distorted pile of bullshit.

And the whole referendum on both sides was so horrible and negative that even if you are geeky and read up on stuff you still had no idea what's going on
 
Well, it seems they are starting to take to the streets. Bristol and Nottingham have both popped up on my FB feed.

I hope they can be turned from from blaming Brexiters to blaming Westminster.

I may to and cobble something together to leaflet any protests that happen near me.

I also hope that Lexiters are getting ready to mobilise as and when.

These moments of chaos and anger whilst the bubble is preoccupied is the time to try and shift the agenda of these momentous times.
 
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