Remainers: When are you taking to the streets?

[chilango]

Too many people turning up. I think it's a relief for many - the bristol one was organised by the local NUS who sold it as a refugee support demo then switched it and were swamped with angry i'm not pro-eu responses. Opportunism all round.

Opportunism coupled with inexperience? entitlement? naivety?

Remainers, I suspect, that are taking to the streets are perhaps basing their actions upon an image or echo of protest gained from clictivism on social media.

I doubt many know what happens next once they're on the streets. And why would they?

Leavers will face similar problems too if taking to the streets.

The absence of combative extra-parliamentary experiences will show I fear.

Of course, either side can get through this, and develop new tactics and strategies of their own.

We can help.

Maybe.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

People are meeting up in Trafalgar Square anyway—already some folk there. You can't just cancel it the same day....

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Opportunism coupled with inexperience? entitlement? naivety?

Remainers, I suspect, that are taking to the streets are perhaps basing their actions upon an image or echo of protest gained from clictivism on social media.

I doubt many know what happens next once they're on the streets. And why would they?

Leavers will face similar problems too if taking to the streets.

The absence of combative extra-parliamentary experiences will show I fear.

Of course, either side can get through this, and develop new tactics and strategies of their own.

We can help.

Maybe.

Problem is, if their 'sides' are based solely on the referendum result, they're taking sides in the wrong way for any coherent demo about anything. That applies equally to 'remainers' and 'leavers'. Any demo based primarily on the referendum can only be horribly divisive and counter-productive.

 

[emanymton]

Here's one already on the street. A lovely girl but have to say she doesn't do the remainers any favours and seems quite confused about the cost of travel to France.

Sure they weren't, but they were still handing out placards at an anti-Brexit rally. Opportunism is all, usual for them.

Is it an anti-Brexit rally though? I can't watch the video as I am on my phone and low on data. If it is just an ant-rascism pro-imigration thing, then it is perfectly consistent politically for them to support both. I can't see them actually turning up to support an Anti-Brexit demo.

Anyway isn't it about time they set up a front group to call a demo demanding the government follows the will of the people and pushes ahead with Brexit?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

People are meeting up in Trafalgar Square anyway—already some folk there. You can't just cancel it the same day....

Quite a lot of people given the rain and alleged cancellation. Probably about 2/3 or 3/4 of the square full, which is several thousand.

 

[Sherman Tank]

You're just reaffirming what you don't know; albeit in perhaps even starker terms. As I said have fun.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

No I'm not my good fellow, it is a well known fact that democracy in the UK is based around electing representatives who then work with paid experts to develop the policies that they think will benefit the country, if we don't like what they develop we chuck them out at the next election. I don't know why EU membership was considered to be a different matter.

 

[wheelie_bin]

The EU is different because it is about who gets to make and implement some policies on our behalf. Same as AV was a referendum because it was about selecting how we choose who gets to make and implement some policies on our behalf. It's also why we have a separate election for councils, mayors etc. I've no idea what the purpose is of police commissioner elections though, so can't help with that one.

 

[treelover]

Jon Snow wetting himself, thousands of well informed liberal types outside parliament live.

 

[brogdale]

Jon Snow wetting himself, thousands of well informed liberal types outside parliament live.

Saw that live...

Small point; how did you gauge their 'well informed' status?

 

[brogdale]

"Vote again"

 

[butchersapron]

And "google"

 

[butchersapron]

Yes. "google".

 

[butchersapron]

Yes i know it will say facts or something.

 

[Anudder Oik]

People are meeting up in Trafalgar Square anyway—already some folk there. You can't just cancel it the same day....

Fuck em, they represent a mollycuddled generation of priviliged rich kids, having a tantrum about how unfair democracy is because the chavs got to vote.

The real issue here is not them and their self interests as liberal individuals but the level of inequality britian has reached, as has been so eloquently outlined in the financial times.

Who is battling for better living conditions for the unrepresented and demonized working class in a hostile work market flooded with cheap labour by capitalism? This lot of luvvies?

 

[brogdale]

And "google"

Hmmm...

Some were better than others...obviously...

 

[Anudder Oik]

"Vote again"

Fuck right off.

 

[brogdale]

Fuck right off.

Somewhat naive to think that's a necessary pre-condition for Brexit to be cancelled.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Spoiled brats

 

[keybored]

"Vote again"

"11 mil"?

 

[brogdale]

"11 mil"?

Well, there you go...see, Remain won really.

 

[JimW]

"11 mil"?

There is a '.' if you squint, 1.1 he's claiming.

 

[butchersapron]

1.1ml?

 

[Anudder Oik]

One banner reads

Well, there you go...see, Remain won really.

Yes, because they're more highly educated about democracy and things like that. This is all about middle class condescension, which has reached an all time high in Britain.

 

[keybored]

Well, there you go...see, Remain won really.

I'm not sure what they're claiming. All the abstainers (would have been a bit more than 11m anyway I think) would now turn up and vote remain? Or 11m who voted leave have changed there mind?

I know it's hard to get context onto a catchy placard and all.

 

[brogdale]

There is a '.' if you squint, 1.1 he's claiming.

Ah, yes...this.

 

[JimW]

1.1ml?

That's what I reckon it reads and have a vague feeling it tallies with some claimed survey stat.
ETA brogdale has it

 

[keybored]

There is a '.' if you squint, 1.1 he's claiming.

Sorry, thought you were joking. Zoomed in now.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Ah, yes...this.

 

[JimW]

Sorry, thought you were joking. Zoomed in now.

No, it's him who's joking even if he doesn't think so.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Ah, yes...this.

Propaganda