PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[kabbes]

The idea in any case that personality traits reflect some kind of genetic determinism

 

[David Clapson]

If I had a child I wouldn't want it to be a psychopath or a narcissist. If psychopathy was better understood, and it could be identified in early pregnancy, I suspect a lot of parents would choose abortion. It's quite a conundrum. Successful psychopaths and narcissists are happy. Unlike screening for a physical disability, perception of the quality of life of the child doesn't come into it. It's about the harm the child does to others. I can't see anything wrong with screening it out. To be predictably Godwinian, would it be wrong to abort the next Hitler?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Express might regret this poll:

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Currently just over 27k have voted, and it remains as 97% for 'YES', still time to vote, urbs.

 

[David Clapson]

The idea in any case that personality traits reflect some kind of genetic determinism

You're a long way behind the science.

 

[Ax^]

Steve Taylor, a psychologist, has analysed Johnson The darkness of Boris Johnson: a psychologist on the prime minister's unpalatable personality traits No surprises really. He displays traits of the so-called 'dark triad' of psychopathy, narcissism and machiavellianism, plus so-called 'dark factor' traits of spitefulness, moral disengagement, entitlement and egoism. "In an ideal society, there would be measures to restrict such people’s access to power".

that is every Tory mind

 

[Artaxerxes]

that is every Tory mind

We literally extol people willing to stab their own mother's for a whiff of power and only allow those people to get to the top. Boris is a distillation of everything we look for and search for in leaders.

Anyone who wants to be a leader, shouldn't be.

 

[kabbes]

You're a long way behind the science.

I have literally just finished a degree in the science and am currently reading in preparation for a masters in it

 

[David Clapson]

If no psychopaths had been born during the last 100 years, the doomsday clock would be several precious hours earlier. An evolutionary triumph.

 

[two sheds]

I have literally just finished a degree in the science and am currently reading in preparation for a masters in it

Yeh how many youtube videos have you watched though, eh?

 

[David Clapson]

I have literally just finished a degree in the science and am currently reading in preparation for a masters in it

Google tells me that many of your peers think personality is at least 50% hereditary.

 

[maomao]

Google tells me that many of your peers think personality is at least 50% hereditary.

So you want people to abort children with a 50% chance of becoming a psycoopath?

 

[kabbes]

Google tells me that many of your peers think personality is at least 50% hereditary.

Many more of my peers question fundamentally whether the idea of a “personality” as a stable set of context-free enduring traits even stands up to scrutiny, let alone that it is so stable and enduring that it is inherited

 

[kabbes]

I mean, just think for a minute about what it would even mean. The idea that if Boris Johnson had been born in poverty in Bangladesh in 1752 (or whatever the society that existed then was called) that he would be basically the same person

 

[David Clapson]

So you want people to abort children with a 50% chance of becoming a psycoopath?

I chose my words more carefully than that, if you care to read them properly. Plenty of 'ifs'. The science of personality is in its early days. Same with genetics. I'm speculating about what may or may not be possible in the future, probably long after we are all dead. I have a feeling that we'll discover that extreme traits like psychopathy are mostly nature, and hardly any nurture. But without the benefit of time travel, I'll never know.

 

[David Clapson]

I mean, just think for a minute about what it would even mean. The idea that if Boris Johnson had been born in poverty in Bangladesh in 1752 (or whatever the society that existed then was called) that he would be basically the same person

So 100% nature, zero nurture. Not what I said, is it?

This book sounds interesting So is it nature not nurture after all?

 

[kabbes]

So 100% nature, zero nurture. Not what I said, is it?

This book sounds interesting So is it nature not nurture after all?

To be honest, I don’t think you really grasp what any of these terms mean. Invoking “nature versus nurture”, for a start, is not great.

What do you understand by a trait being “50% heritable”?

For that matter, how are you defining “personality”?

 

[David Clapson]

Please answer those questions in 20,000 words, without deviating from settled science. Then we can have a debate.

 

[kabbes]

Please answer those questions in 20,000 words, without deviating from settled science. Then we can have a debate.

Would you like to read my essays on the subject? That’s probably about 20,000 words, if it helps you.

 

[ruffneck23]

Well I've just written to my MP again, not that it will do much good, I expect the generic reply, he got the big things right etc...

 

[philosophical]

Every time I hear he got the big things right I want to throw up.
The UK death toll from Covid is worse than many other countries.
The vaccine was created by a Turkish scientist in Germany.
The UK has not left the EU due to Northern Ireland.
Everybody is outraged about Ukraine, and help where they are able, like the refugees Poland has taken in.
When they say he got the big things right it is about big money to himself and his mates.
He is vile, and it shocks me how many fall for it.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

 

[TopCat]

If I had a child I wouldn't want it to be a psychopath or a narcissist. If psychopathy was better understood, and it could be identified in early pregnancy, I suspect a lot of parents would choose abortion. It's quite a conundrum. Successful psychopaths and narcissists are happy. Unlike screening for a physical disability, perception of the quality of life of the child doesn't come into it. It's about the harm the child does to others. I can't see anything wrong with screening it out. To be predictably Godwinian, would it be wrong to abort the next Hitler?

Have you been on it?

 

[Bingoman]

Well it seems two more MPs have told Johnson to go, John Baron and David Simmonds so we surely must be getting near to the 54 letters by now?

 

[steveseagull]

Twitter seems to be awash with rumours that Carrie has left him and has shacked up with Zac Goldsmith. No idea how true this is but it would be a fairly natural progression for a Tory in Tory circles.

 

[ruffneck23]

I've seen a lot of that, but then again it is twitter.

 

[brogdale]

Well it seems two more MPs have told Johnson to go, John Baron and David Simmonds so we surely must be getting near to the 54 letters by now?

both 60% of the popular vote MPs...not marginal men

 

[Pickman's model]

Have you been on it?

bit early in the day for it

 

[Pickman's model]

Well I've just written to my MP again, not that it will do much good, I expect the generic reply, he got the big things right etc...

he has not got the big things right, the medium things right or even the small things write. in fact the only thing he's got right is that he could play the parliamentary conservative party for mugs who'd not sack him though he's lied to them, to parliament and to the queen, not to mention the public and the eu.

 

[steveseagull]

campanula I checked with my mum whose memory is better than mine when it comes to plants.
She thinks its some sort of geranium and mentioned a crane?

Seems to be the #FBPE cult that are all over this but stopped clocks etc

 

[ruffneck23]

he has not got the big things right, the medium things right or even the small things write. in fact the only thing he's got right is that he could play the parliamentary conservative party for mugs who'd not sack him though he's lied to them, to parliament and to the queen, not to mention the public and the eu.

I may use some of that in my reply if you dont mind ?