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PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

Johnson was wrong, of course he was, but so were a myriad of my neighbours, indeed, so were we. During the period where there were to be no gatherings, we had visitors, but visitors who were as scrupulous as we were re hygiene etc, and we sat outside.

Honestly? I have no time for anyone who broke any covid restrictions.
Boris is on the floor already sitting in a dungheap of ineptitude, dishonesty and arrogance.
 
He's looking older since he caught Covid, prior to that I was quite astonished he had children in their late twenties.
His ageing has got fuck all to do with him getting covid.* He's aged prematurely because he's a doing a job way above his abilities.
* And he got covid because he shook peoples hands because the Cunt didn't take it seriously.
 
There's lots of coverage in today's papers suggesting things are reaching a tipping point, that a growing number of both senior & back-bench MPs have concluded he needs to go sooner rather than later, and they are just waiting until after the local elections.

The mood has clearly been changing this week, since he addressed the commons over his first fine on Tuesday, a sizeable number of his MPs refusing to support him with the vote on Thursday, and especially with Steve Baker coming out against him - 'the gig is over'. They are expecting more partygate fines and combined with disastrous election results, the feeling is he's now too toxic, and it's time for him to go even without a clear and obvious successor, in the belief anyone would be better.

Whilst the war in Ukraine probably saved him a couple of months ago, that has settled down now, the risk of Russia taking total of the country has passed, it's now a regional war that's likely to go on for many months, or even years, and they can't wait that long, as they need time for a new leader to bed-in before the general election in 2024.

“I have seen enough to reach a conclusion that the prime minister needs to go,” Harper said. “My colleagues can be confident that we have very talented people and a very robust process for selecting a new leader that will ensure we get a capable, credible successor who can set out an attractive proposition and ensure we can win the next election.”

He added: “I think the facts will mean that a majority of Conservative MPs will reach the conclusion that the prime minister needs to go.”

Another former cabinet minister said doubts over the succession were now irrelevant, such was the urgency of the situation. “A broomstick would be better than what we have at the moment,” he said.
:D

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The Wakefield by election isn't on the same day as the locals - the MP hasn't even resigned yet, so there's no date set

Thanks, edited, looks like my google search defaulted to local election date, rather than by-election, and I didn't notice. :facepalm:
 
Talking about Baker, this was from yesterday's Telegraph.

Steve Baker is choosing his words carefully. I’ve just asked the former Brexit minister if he’s planning to submit a letter to the 1922 Committee of backbench Conservative MPs calling for a no-confidence vote in Boris Johnson.

“No. There is no question whatsoever of me putting my letter in,” he says. But then he tells me to take note of the tense. One reason why there might be no possibility of him submitting a letter in the future is that he has already done so.

I think it's very clear from that that he has put his letter in, for those that missed what he said on Thursday, he didn't mince his words.



He's clearly changed his mind since he said he was 'unwilling to participate' back in January.

When we met previously in his Parliamentary office back in January he spelt out why he was unwilling to participate in a third regicide. “I’ve been down this road before. Trying to remove a prime minister is a considerable personal and political burden. I’ve carried it once and I don’t wish to do so again.”


Today, the 50-year-old tells me, “I’m p----d off with members of the Cabinet sitting there fat, dumb and happy and letting me do the dirty work in the trenches rather than take a risk with their own careers. It happened with Brexit, it happened with Covid and it’s happening again. I want the Cabinet to rise to this challenge. Sometimes leadership does require paying a personal price.”

He's fucking right about the cabinet, they are a disgrace, and he's also right about Dorries...

One of the first glimpses of gathering discontent among Tory MPs came in December, when Baker removed culture secretary Nadine Dorries from his ‘Clean Global Brexit’ WhatsApp group of over 100 Tory MPs, after she described the Prime Minister as “a hero”.

“I am sick to death of self-interested sycophancy – court games – and that’s what I’m afraid she happened to be guilty of,” says Baker. “It disgusts me”.

:D

I am no fan of Baker, obviously, but he's a powerful back-bencher and I think his intervention is going to pivotal in Johnson's downfall.

It's worth reading the whole article (paywall busted) - archive.ph

On a side note, the Mail is claiming that 46 letters are now in, which needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, but it's an odd thing for them to be reporting, considering they have been backing him so much. :hmm:
 
Party Chairman is still standing by Boris this morning, his job of course but confirmation bias is I think letting a few here get a bit over excited (though there is plenty of that going on in the papers too and they can influence things)

If he does actually go.... something I still doubt its not really going to change anything as far as most of us are concerned, the tories have a plentiful supply of nasty pieces of work and Boris will just be replaced by one of them

Oops. better put a link up in case the class prefect is around is around Politics latest: Tory chairman says removing Boris Johnson would be 'dearly damaging' for the country and insists PM will lead party into next election
 
Party Chairman is still standing by Boris this morning, his job of course but confirmation bias is I think letting a few here get a bit over excited (though there is plenty of that going on in the papers too and they can influence things)

If he does actually go.... something I still doubt its not really going to change anything as far as most of us are concerned, the tories have a plentiful supply of nasty pieces of work and Boris will just be replaced by one of them

Oops. better put a link up in case the class prefect is around is around Politics latest: Tory chairman says removing Boris Johnson would be 'dearly damaging' for the country and insists PM will lead party into next election
I think you're reading too much into Dowden's need to toe the official line until the official line changes.
 
I think you're reading too much into Dowden's need to toe the official line until the official line changes.
No I completely understand its his job as I already said, but he isnt the only one in fear of his job by far and it matters not if they believe what they do and say is right...they are tories remember

(I should have typed Politicians not tories, but well we are talking about certain characteristics of politicians that are extremely well presented in the tory party)
 
I am not forgetting in any hurry what he presided over when in charge of Health. He has been assiduously trying to reinvent himself over the past few weeks/months. He needs to be reminded that people haven't forgotten.
I suppose it was fairly inevitable that as health secretary for the bulk of the austerity years, anything that came after would be seen as a reinvention.

Longer timescale though - he and Johnson were the final candidate in the post-May tory leadership election. And he was appointed Health and Social Care select committee chair in January 2020, a role which was bound to reframe him as someone with some kind of grip on the actual issues and a platform to talk about the meaningful details.

And then as a result, at an early crucial moment of the pandemic he actually found himself in a position we did not associate him with - being a useful guide! He knew what state the NHS was in due to his role in weakening the NHS during his shit years as health minister, he knew something of the potential of this virus and what experts were saying about it. And so he appeared on telly looking like he had seen a ghost and was about to burst into tears. And some proportion of the public took note of that performance and realised that they were probably going to have to take this pandemic far more seriously than they had previously assumed. Sometimes expressed in terms of 'we know we are in the shit when Hunt is the voice of reason'. His select committee role then afforded him the opportunity some month later to discuss some of the first wave failings in public view.

I'd say that everything since then has mostly just been a continuation of that, no further reinvention required, just making the most of the position he already found himself in vs the state Johnson is in.
 
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