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I thought this was a pisstake, but nooooo..... :facepalm:


As flights of political fancy go, Boris Johnson’s desire to build a tunnel between Great Britain and Northern Ireland might seem to be one of the most audacious.

However, Whitehall officials have revealed that one version of the plan worked up in Downing Street went even further, envisaging not one but three tunnels under the Irish Sea connecting in an “underground roundabout” beneath the Isle of Man.

No 10 officials given the task of examining how Johnson’s blue-sky thinking might be feasible quickly concluded that the original plan of a link between Stranraer in Scotland and Larne in Northern Ireland was impractical.

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Stranraer has poor transport links and it would cost billions to build a high-speed rail link to connect the tunnel terminus with the rest of Britain. “It would have cost just as much to put in 100 miles of high-speed rail to get even to Carlisle as it would to dig the tunnel,” claimed one source familiar with the deliberations.


Instead officials proposed three starting points: at Stranraer, Heysham, near Lancaster, and one near Liverpool. “The idea was that these three tunnels would meet in a giant roundabout underneath the Isle of Man and the tunnel to Ireland would start there,” the source said. “Everyone knows Boris wants to do this so people were asked to look at how.”

That route would mean the tunnel was built south of Beaufort’s Dyke — a 32-mile fissure that was used to dump an estimated 1.5 million tons of Second World War munitions — which gets in the way of a direct route between Stranraer and Larne.
A second source suggested that the plan for Douglas Junction was designed to “highlight how nuts this whole thing is”. The tunnel scheme is regarded as “batshit” by several of Johnson’s senior aides.
However, in private they acknowledge that it is a “Fuhrer bunker project”, so beloved of the prime minister that it “cannot die”.
“Just as Hitler moved around imaginary armies in the dying days of the Third Reich, so the No 10 policy unit is condemned to keep looking at this idea, which exists primarily in the mind of the PM,” one informed source said. “The roundabout is round the bend.”



Nonetheless a formal proposal for a single tunnel has been submitted by the High-Speed Rail Group, an umbrella organisation for rail companies, to a review by Sir Peter Hendy, the chairman of Network Rail, which is supposed to find ways of improving transport links between the different parts of the UK.
Hendy, who ran Transport for London when Johnson was mayor, could give the green light for a feasibility study into the plan in the next few weeks.
“People think this is all a joke but it’s much more likely to get the go-ahead than people think,” another Whitehall official said.
Odd that they'd want 4 tunnels or legs radiating out from the IoM; surely got to be just the 3 of the triskelion?
I may offer my services as a senior aide on the basis of that suitably entho-nationalist observation.
 
Odd that they'd want 4 tunnels or legs radiating out from the IoM; surely got to be just the 3 of the triskelion?
I may offer my services as a senior aide on the basis of that suitably entho-nationalist observation.
Well, I'm struggling to see even the batshit crazy version of a reason for including the link to Stranraer if you're already linking to Liverpool and Heysham. Where's the market left for that leg?
 
Well, I'm struggling to see even the batshit crazy version of a reason for including the link to Stranraer if you're already linking to Liverpool and Heysham. Where's the market left for that leg?
Yeah, there aren’t many signs that this dead cat is the product of actual transport planning processes :D
 
Talking to a U.K. based friend yesterday. He told me that he had voted Boris, that Johnson was doing a great job and no one else could have done a better job. He was adamant that Labour would have been far worse, and that both Brexit and Covid death numbers would have been worse.
 
How are they defining "extremist views", though? My views on slavery are pretty extreme - it should not exist at all. Does that make me a simpleton?
Sounds like it needs a thread of its own! ;)

Although, to answer the question, most of the references in the Guardian piece appear to concentrate on a propensity towards authoritarian and/or conservative ideological positions implying RW/religious extremism?
 
Talking to a U.K. based friend yesterday. He told me that he had voted Boris, that Johnson was doing a great job and no one else could have done a better job. He was adamant that Labour would have been far worse, and that both Brexit and Covid death numbers would have been worse.
I've heard a fair bit of this, too. It's depressing - these idiots have votes, FFS.
 


Accidentally punching down and being a racist wouldn't have worked at school (though in my school maybe) so it's no excuse in literally every job Boris has had
 
Turns out the actual report was literally talking about Conservatism.


FWIW, the idea that individuals have stable attitudes regardless of context and that they also have the kind of stable cognitive potential that can be correlated to those stable attitudes is quite an American way of understanding psychology. There would be plenty in the UK, EU etc that would likely disagree with the underlying premise of that paper.
 
Talking to a U.K. based friend yesterday. He told me that he had voted Boris, that Johnson was doing a great job and no one else could have done a better job. He was adamant that Labour would have been far worse, and that both Brexit and Covid death numbers would have been worse.
Plenty think like this. If they would rather watch other stuff on tv than the news & their lives have not been badly affected by brexit & Covid. They are still working ok & earning money or they are retired & ok financially then if they are right wing & Tory voters why should they think any different ? To them this is how it looks. I know plenty who live around me who hold this view. They also vote.

There are plenty though that I know of who are in a dire financial position & are just really resigned to it. They are tired & past caring. They can’t be arsed to vote because they firmly believe nothing will change.
 
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