Nicola Bulley Missing

[quimcunx]

Why? Should it only be spoken of in hushed tones in private, or just swept under the 'mental health' umbrella? Not a dig, genuinely wonder why do you think that, is it really any different to mentining the alcohol or anything else?

TBH I expect some of the reason for announcing what they did is to try and slow the absolute shitty loon speculation on the internet by giving some background to why they think no third party involvement is the most likely outcome.

This. In the press conference one of the questions was WHAT WERE THE VULNERABILITIES? I'VE HAD 10 TEXT MESSAGES IN 5 MINUTES ASKING WHAT WERE THE VULNERABILITIES???!!!!! YOU MUST TELL US. WE MUST KNOW! WE DESERVE TO KNOW!

They couldn't win on this. The second they said that everyone was straight in with revised theories/conspiracies/suspicions/blames and demands to know why they, the rubbernecking public were not informed earlier, after all they are the most important people here.

 

[LDC]

How does mentioning menopause as a previous cause of her ongoing alcohol problems help with that? It seems the whole situation with the speculation has been caused by the police desperately avoiding any allusion to the "s" word. That's what has been "spoken of in hushed tones in private, or just swept under the 'mental health' umbrella."

They could have just said she was at risk of harming herself from the start, like the police do in lots of missing person appeals.

Yeah, no idea as I don't have access to the whole story obviously. But I don't think mentioning those things is something to be avoided at all costs. Maybe they should have been talked about straight away and that might have headed off some of the loon speculation? No idea really what was best.

The whole thing is very sad - and terrible if someone else is involved. And the reaction of many people is disgusting.

If she turns up alive she'll have more important things to think and worry about than the fact they mentioned her menopause in the press conference I'd have thought?

 

[spellbinder]

Quote of the day from my fb round up " why are the police wasting so much resources on just another alky"

Fucking hell - I hope none of the family or friends come across that shite.
Didn't the old bill think brain dead dicks would kick off, no respect for the poor woman.

 

[andysays]

It's complicated though, should the family have a say on what gets made public? Even if the police think it might help the investigation? And even if in some other cases the family might be under suspicion for having some involvement? The police are acting on behalf of the missing person really, not the family.

I agree that it's complicated, and I'm not sure that this particular case is the best example to discuss the general issue.

In this case, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the police have seriously mismanaged many aspects and are now seeking to deflect some blame for that. Ironically, they're getting even more criticism for releasing the info.

But in general I think that the police should have to get family consent for revealing this sort of info, especially info which is unlikely to be that helpful in actually resolving the case, as it appears here.

 

[Pickman's model]

This. In the press conference one of the questions was WHAT WERE THE VULNERABILITIES? I'VE HAD 10 TEXT MESSAGES IN 5 MINUTES ASKING WHAT WERE THE VULNERABILITIES???!!!!! YOU MUST TELL US. WE MUST KNOW! WE DESERVE TO KNOW!

They couldn't win on this. The second they said that everyone was straight in with revised theories/conspiracies/suspicions/blames and demands to know why they, the rubbernecking public were not informed earlier, after all they are the most important people here.

they could win on this, if they'd carried out an investigation which from the off considered that the best way to find her might start with a forensic examination of the scene. which could have shown at the least how many people had been there recently, or whether there'd been a struggle. it's policing 101, surely, to collect what clues you can to start off with. but they fucked that up and they've been out of their depth ever since.

 

[Pickman's model]

in years to come this case will be held up as an example of how not to conduct an investigation

 

[Yossarian]

I get the impression that the force didn't expect its announcement that there was no sign of third-party involvement and the disappearance was not being treated as suspicious to be followed by almost three weeks of intensive media coverage.

 

[xenon]

they could win on this, if they'd carried out an investigation which from the off considered that the best way to find her might start with a forensic examination of the scene. which could have shown at the least how many people had been there recently, or whether there'd been a struggle. it's policing 101, surely, to collect what clues you can to start off with. but they fucked that up and they've been out of their depth ever since.

Do we know they definitely didn’t do that though? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t. But likewise would I hope they would have.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do we know they definitely didn’t do that though? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t. But likewise would I hope they would have.

yes

Nicola Bulley police's 'crucial mistakes' pin-pointed by top murder detective

Lancashire Police say their "main working hypothesis" is that Nicola Bulley fell in a river, but that they are keeping an open mind

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[platinumsage]

I get the impression that the force didn't expect its announcement that there was no sign of third-party involvement and the disappearance was not being treated as suspicious to be followed by almost three weeks of intensive media coverage.

That's the opposite way round to what happened though. Prior to the announcement of "no sign of third-party involvement" they were busy appealing for dashcam footage, and praising locals for coming out and helping the search, that's what ramped up the media coverage initially. Top that off by saying they had no evidence of anything so they were assuming she stumbled into the water, and it was obvious the coverage would just get more intense.

 

[editor]

Look at this fucking idiot

Nicola Bulley: YouTuber Dan Duffy arrested and fined after searching for missing woman

Dan Duffy has previously posted clips to his 206,000 subscribers on YouTube saying he had "been in people's back gardens at night-time".

news.sky.com

 

[Pickman's model]

Look at this fucking idiot

Nicola Bulley: YouTuber Dan Duffy arrested and fined after searching for missing woman

Dan Duffy has previously posted clips to his 206,000 subscribers on YouTube saying he had "been in people's back gardens at night-time".

news.sky.com

I'd rather not

 

[pinkmonkey]

Look at this fucking idiot

Nicola Bulley: YouTuber Dan Duffy arrested and fined after searching for missing woman

Dan Duffy has previously posted clips to his 206,000 subscribers on YouTube saying he had "been in people's back gardens at night-time".

news.sky.com

This is like what we went through, a few years ago. People climbing over the fence at night, filming themselves. I took a look at the FB group to do with the missing person near us, it still exists. It's now chock full of people threatening each other and Great Reset NWO conspiracies. It's obviously a certain type of idiot who centres themselves in an investigation in this way. It's a sort of attention seeking isn't it? They all want to be the one who has the information and is right about something.

 

[spellbinder]

He's a fucking dickhead, wandering about in the dark with a torch on peoples property and not seeing thats wrong

here is his post

The music is getting on my nerves

 

[pinkmonkey]

Yep, we had similar, then the different factions who were filming and creeping about all fell out with each other and started threatening each other and setting up rival Facebook groups. fucking dickheads indeed.

 

[Spymaster]

He's a fucking dickhead, wandering about in the dark with a torch on peoples property and not seeing thats wrong

here is his post

The music is getting on my nerves

The stupid fucking cunt should be arrested or sectioned.

 

[spellbinder]

I don't know whats worse him doing that or the people commenting and egging him on telling him hes a fucking hero - fucked up world

fucking hell hes doing a derek acorah 12 mins in - unbelievable

 

[friedaweed]

Total bellend.

 

[platinumsage]

I'm sure he wouldn't do it if people didn't watch his videos and share them.

 

[Aladdin]

The stupid fucking cunt should be arrested or sectioned.

He has been arrested ..

 

[danny la rouge]

He has been arrested ..

Cut into sections?

 

[Raheem]

Cut into sections?

The final edit.

 

[pbsmooth]

This is like what we went through, a few years ago. People climbing over the fence at night, filming themselves. I took a look at the FB group to do with the missing person near us, it still exists. It's now chock full of people threatening each other and Great Reset NWO conspiracies. It's obviously a certain type of idiot who centres themselves in an investigation in this way. It's a sort of attention seeking isn't it? They all want to be the one who has the information and is right about something.

lonely people who are desperate to feel part of something, anything. you see it in articles about people who have started posting radical conspiaracy shite online - they were bored, unhappy, alone and then suddenly when they post this nonsense they get attention and feel part of something, so they double down on it. (being on a forum of course not entirely unconnected!)

 

[pinkmonkey]

lonely people who are desperate to feel part of something, anything. you see it in articles about people who have started posting radical conspiaracy shite online - they were bored, unhappy, alone and then suddenly when they post this nonsense they get attention and feel part of something, so they double down on it. (being on a forum of course not entirely unconnected!)

This human behaviour, It sort of fascinates me, if I'd taken a different course in life it's the sort of thing I'd want to study, yes I agree, with you, I also think it appeals to people who have low self esteem and have never been listened to. it must be addictive, getting a youtube channel and people listening to you, it must drive this behaviour and make it more extreme. It's awful being subjected to it. They are doxing the family too. It's also becoming more common like other social media phenomenons and I don't think we've really caught up with what's going on or really know how to deal with it before it gets unmanageable.

 

[AverageJoe]

People's Esteem (especially younger people) has never been lower.

The advent of things like Only Fans has meant that if the only thing you have left to sell is your soul, then you'll do it. But then what.

The thing is that is a race to the bottom. Like anything there will be people that do well and stuff and people who don't do so well at stuff. For every person doing well on OnlyFans, Instagram, YouTube, Discord, etc fucking cetera, there are 10000 that aren't.

Which is why we have these Ambulance Chasers and social media experts.

I've said it many times. I make my money from the Internet, but I would rather it was shut down to keep peoples sanity alive.

This guy is just another chancer. No different to Andrew Tate, or Matt Hancock, flat earthers, conspiracy theorists, diet pill sellers, MLM advocates, crypto people,general "influencers" or any other chancer trying to find a niche to make money.

There's nothing moralistic about it, but it's legal.

And that's not only depressing but it's a bad signal to send to our schoolkids. "find a niche and exploit it"

(just typing that made me feel Mary Whitehouse old. Another impact of the Internet. I miss white dog poop).

 

[xenon]

The content providers aren't all lonely low self esteme losers, that's more like the viewers. Some / many are just narcasistic chancers.

 

[Elpenor]

The content providers aren't all lonely low self esteme losers, that's more like the viewers. Some / many are just narcasistic chancers.

See also YouTube auditors

 

[savoloysam]

Now we have people who knew her threatening to sell stories about her. That takes a special kind of cunt to do that. If they try to I hope the newspapers name and shame them.

 

[Bingoman]

Now we have people who knew her threatening to sell stories about her. That takes a special kind of cunt to do that. If they try to I hope the newspapers name and shame them.

Why just let the police try and find her and leave her family alone, but it seems people cant

 

[Spymaster]

Why just let the police try and find her and leave her family alone, but it seems people cant

It's sad fucks with shit lives, turning it into an opportunity to grief-socialise with other sad fucks with shit lives, in an attempt to make themselves feel relevant.