National Action to be proscribed as a "Terrorist Organisation"

[Magnus McGinty]

You tell me, little man.

Why don't you deal with their substantive points instead of the barely concealed aggression against those who'd stopped engaging with you?
He made the effort to give several replies. Maybe you could reciprocate?

 

[krtek a houby]

Why don't you deal with their substantive points instead of the barely concealed aggression against those who'd stopped engaging with you?
He made the effort to give several replies. Maybe you could reciprocate?

What, like you did earlier in the thread? Or on the EU thread that you resurected? LOL.

And don't play dumb again. You must know precisely where and when given your weird obsession with my past posts.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Shocking that even a newbie objects to your musings. What does that say about you eh?

Newbie, my arse.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Newbie, my arse.

He is. I know him irl and others also do on here if you need a credentials check.
He's late 20s. What's the average age of here nowadays?

 

[Pickman's model]

He is. I know him irl and others also do on here if you need a credentials check.
He's late 20s. What's the average age of here nowadays?

Older than the average tory

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Older than the average tory

Where we all end up as we get older.
The cobweb left needs rattling about I think.

 

[Casually Red]

The UVF tipped the IRA off? Why?

Wrong . The leak coming from the loyalist side was UDA leader Jim Craig . He was doing quite well out of extortion and gansterism and didn't want to end up on a hit list . People like Murphy and others were endangering his lifestyle by ramping sectarian killings up . He set up quite a few , not just Murphy . UDA were later tipped off about him, most likely by scap . And that was the end of jimbo .

 

[ViolentPanda]

He is. I know him irl and others also do on here if you need a credentials check.
He's late 20s. What's the average age of here nowadays?

To be scrupulously honest, you vouching for him just makes me more suspicious that he's a returner in his late 40s.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

To be scrupulously honest, you vouching for him just makes me more suspicious that he's a returner in his late 40s.

it was a daft thing for me to say, in hindsight. But you speak the truth and back your mates wherever possible.
It's irrelevant here.

 

[Red Sky]

National Action activist on trial.

Bradford teen accused of planning terror attack ‘called Jo Cox’s killer a hero’

 

[Pickman's model]

National Action activist on trial.

Bradford teen accused of planning terror attack ‘called Jo Cox’s killer a hero’

So, among their many hates, na are anti-semantic

 

[MrSpikey]

You can see why [Mark Collett] was suggested as a future leader for the far-right at Larry Nunn/Western Spring's recent unity meeting.

While he's quite an eloquent speaker, I suspect he won't get much support from those who have been around that scene a while. His previous actions don't lend him much credibility, on a number of fronts.



For example, things like the above aren't exactly positive adverts for his innate leadership abilities.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

"I was being edgy I guess".

Teen terror suspect in Jo Cox killer 'hero' U-turn - BBC News

 

[DaveCinzano]

Guilty on making the pipebomb, acquitted on ‘preparing a terrorist act’ charge. Sentencing still to come.

Teenager who praised killer of Jo Cox guilty of making pipebomb

 

[ddraig]

rehabilitation and deradicalisation for the poor confused kiddy
Neo-Nazi pipe bomb teenager given rehabilitation order - BBC News

'Extreme views'
Passing sentence Mr Justice Goss said the boy needed "a considerable amount of work and attention" in order to address his behaviour.

The judge told the boy he rejected his claim to have been "merely fooling about with fireworks" and said "you have continued to express extreme views".

He said the boy would have received "a substantial custodial sentence" had he been convicted of preparing terrorist acts.

 

[Cpatain Rbubish]

I can't halp but think if this was a 17 year old Muslim in possession of a viable (even if small pipe bomb) plus a plethora of physical and digital evidence the sentence would be somewhat different.

Is this just me?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

They're still active, unsurprisingly, according to this report.

National Action Still 'Active' And 'Poses Serious Terrorist Threat' Despite Ban, Report Claims | The Huffington Post

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I wonder how much of that represents a credible threat and how much is HnH bigging up the threat whilst rattling the donation tin.

 

[jimmer]

It'd be a bit naive to think 100-odd young neo-Nazis are just going to disappear because the government bans the organisation they're in.

I've not seen much/if any evidence to suggest they're still active but would agree with HnH's assessment that the core of their group will continue to organise together while people on the fringes drift off. Just remains to be seen where they pop up. I've heard one of them suggest they all join the British Movement en masse which wouldn't be a huge surprise as there has been some membership crossover in the past. It also sounds like former NA leader Alex Davies is behind the Welsh Forum (part of the London Forum network) so I wouldn't be surprised if they end up participating in whatever project emerges from that network.

But yeah, 100-odd neo-Nazis are not going to be a massive threat. It never looked like NA would outgrow the neo-Nazi subculture and be capable of anything beyond low level violence and vandalism. It looks like a couple of people close to them were involved in the attack on the squat in Belgravia a few weeks ago, linking up with the former Portsmouth EDL division and other Pie and Mash Squad types. I can see that kind of attack getting a lot more common (they're probably down a bit since the start of the EDL but are still happening). That's all the left really needs to worry about physically from the extreme-right atm.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I found this to be interesting:

It also highlighted 1990s nazi terrorist group, Combat 18, whose membership is surging.

Really?

 

[DaveCinzano]

I found this to be interesting:



Really?

Well, certainly Wilf Browning has been hooking up with the wider NSU milieu in Germany recently.

But that report does not match the hyperbole with much evidence beyond that, and later notes that any UK revival in 2016 was “mainly due to a growing number of North West In dels identifying themselves as c18 even if these people weren’t directly linked to the c18 leadership [and the wearing of] c18 paraphernalia at the Dover demonstration last January, including wearing c18 facemasks and flags.”

 

[jimmer]

Thought it was more the September 2015 demo where Diddyman was walking around with a C18 flag. Didn't think there were many on the January demo.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I'm aware that there's fan boys about, one even contacted my fb profile to gloat "we're back!" (Lol) back in 2014 I think; haven't seen much evidence of activity though.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'm aware that there's fan boys about, one even contacted my fb profile to gloat "we're back!" (Lol) back in 2014 I think; haven't seen much evidence of activity though.

Jackbooted cosplay

 

[ViolentPanda]

Jackbooted cosplay

Max Mosley wannabees.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Hope Not Hate article on NA founder Ben Raymond's attempts to get round proscription:

Exclusive: National Action’s secret plans to relaunch with a new name

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nobody predicted this.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Hope Not Hate article on NA founder Ben Raymond's attempts to get round proscription:

Exclusive: National Action’s secret plans to relaunch with a new name

That link no longer works but apparently they're re-emerging as a cell structure and this is their Scottish cell:

https://www.daily
stormer.com/dank-new-nationalist-group-scottish-dawn/

Interesting that they're against independence but also call themselves Scottish Nationalists. Confusing!

 

[DaveCinzano]

That link no longer works

Hmmm... Not even snagged on archive.org, peculiar.

Here's a google cache:

Exclusive: National Action’s secret plans to relaunch with a new name

 

[DaveCinzano]

Oops

A 22-year-old from Birmingham, a 32-year-old from Powys, a 24-year-old from Ipswich and a 24-year-old from Northampton, have been arrested under the Terrorism Act on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed organisation, West Midlands police said.

Four held on suspicion of being members of outlawed neo-nazi group