Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[frogwoman]

yep 250, 000 less people bought the sun at the weekend than usual.

 

[treelover]

er, that is what I posted...

 

[London_Calling]

Rumour (that's all it is right now) that Jean De Menizies family phones were hacked.

Everyone who was 'in the news' had their phone hacked, it was systematic and comprehensive. I don't care that this is being done, but it is just picking out names for dramatic effect.

 

[Idris2002]

Rumour (that's all it is right now) that Jean De Menizies family phones were hacked.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

no, the reason loads of peope bought it (and it was only 3.8 million people who bought it despite the initial claim of 4.5 million) is because a lot of people wanted a keepsake from the whole thing, shit i know, but that doesn't mean they werent INTERSTED in the scandal ...

Rather the opposite, in fact. I'd have loved it if nobody had bought it - a boycott would have been a fitting send-off, I think - but most will have just bought it out of curiosity. Tbf, I'm sure that last edition was more interesting than the usual drivel they churned out.

 

[treelover]

Saddened by you joining the pack Froggie

 

[frogwoman]

Everyone who was 'in the news' had their phone hacked, it was systematic and comprehensive. I don't care that this is being done, but it is just picking out names for dramatic effect.

Depends what else they did other than listen to messages though.

 

[butchersapron]

Firming up a bit now, looks like his cousin says he was told by the plod

 

[London_Calling]

Depends what else they did other than listen to messages though.

The point was only about who had their phones hacked - what are you talking about?

 

[frogwoman]

Saddened by you joining the pack Froggie

erm, i wasn't, i was joking, didn't mean it badly. sorry if i upset you.

 

[krtek a houby]

no, the reason loads of peope bought it (and it was only 3.8 million people who bought it despite the initial claim of 4.5 million) is because a lot of people wanted a keepsake from the whole thing, shit i know, but that doesn't mean they werent INTERSTED in the scandal ...

A keepsake??? Ugh, how vulgar of them.

 

[frogwoman]

i know, lots of people would have bought it out of curiosity though, and the sales weren't THAT much higher than usual compared to what was expected. they printed 5 million copies and most of those weren't sold at all.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Rumour (that's all it is right now) that Jean De Menizies family phones were hacked.

And this: @ChrisBryantMP: House should consider emergency motion on Monday to arrest murdoch's if continue to refuse to attend.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

And this: @ChrisBryantMP: House should consider emergency motion on Monday to arrest murdoch's if continue to refuse to attend.

How? I thought only UK subjects could be forced to attend.

 

[krtek a houby]

How? I thought only UK subjects could be forced to attend.

Could he be extradited or something?

 

[London_Calling]

Arrest people for not bothering with an after-the-Lord-Mayors-Show grandstanding committee?

Get a grip, it's all about the PI now, not shrill and excitable MPs.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

How? I thought only UK subjects could be forced to attend.

Just another rumour.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Could he be extradited or something?

I don't see how. To be extradicted, you need to be charged with something.

 

[redsquirrel]

Off topic but I thought this was a nice bit of evidence putting a hole in the 'tabloid readers believe everything' myth.

While 69% agree that it is only a small minority of journalists who are tarnishing the reputation of others, the vast majority (78%) think that the same practices probably went on in other tabloid newspapers too. Only 8% think it was confined to the News of the World alone. People are more non-committal on the broadsheets – 35% think they are generally fair and accurate, 33% do not, 32% are unsure. Broadsheet readers are rather more trusting of broadsheets (59% think they are fair and accurate, 22% disagree), but even people who read tabloids don’t trust them much – 16% of tabloid readers think their reporting is fair and accurate, 60% do not.

link

 

[Mr.Bishie]

@Paul Waugh: Sir George Young adds he will have to take legal advice on Chris Bryant's suggestion Murdoch could be physically brought to House by Serj.

 

[treelover]

'erm, i wasn't, i was joking, didn't mean it badly. sorry if i upset you. '

thats ok,

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Off topic but I thought this was a nice bit of evidence putting a hole in the 'tabloid readers believe everything' myth.

Nothing new in that - it has long been held that it is the broadsheet readers who are more susceptible to propaganda from their papers of choice. Tbh, I'm pretty amazed that as many as 16 percent of tabloid readers think their reporting is fair and accurate. How the fuck can anyone think that? But just because you don't trust the accuracy of your paper of choice, that doesn't mean you aren't influenced by it, particularly if it is your main source of news.

 

[frogwoman]

'erm, i wasn't, i was joking, didn't mean it badly. sorry if i upset you. '

thats ok,

ok there are other explanations other than them all being bored/disintrested tho. to be fair i'd be bored in that setting too, particularly if i'd had to wait around for ages ...

 

[marty21]

And this: @ChrisBryantMP: House should consider emergency motion on Monday to arrest murdoch's if continue to refuse to attend.

he's getting payback for underpantsgate

 

[butchersapron]

he's getting payback for underpantsgate

This must be the first week he's not been habitually referred to as the pants MP.

Btw: suggestions that Yates has offered his resignation now.

 

[two sheds]

I was trying to find this for the Guardian doesn't half print a load of shit thread but it's good here, too, I think. Kelvin McKenzie on the saviour of the world Mr. Murdoch before all this inconvenient information about his company got out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/30/rupert-murdoch-monopoly-news-corp

Warning - you will feel ill reading bits of it. And no real information apart from McKenzie describing himself as a 'tabloid tosspot' but does show how far the yes-men are up Murdoch's bottom. Once again the comments are the best thing about it.

 

[Ted Striker]

on Newsnight last night they had a panel of 'undecided voters' and quizzed them about murdoch, hacking, the politicians response, the mass media, etc, to say they were not engaged, animated by the issues, etc would be an understatement, Paxo looked very embarassed at the bored faces, either they are just apolitical people happy to be on TV, on any programme or the general public is not as exercised by the scandals as we and the media are...

That was all a bit generally "wtf" embarassing a and wierd. You could feel Paxo mutter "where the fuck dod you get these twats?" and after one of the many moments of silence, I was more expecting someone to pipe up with "What's the News Of the World" or "So this isn't Alan Carr Chatty Man? Sorry, wrong door...".

Undecided <> Unbothered

 

[two sheds]

But just because you don't trust the accuracy of your paper of choice, that doesn't mean you aren't influenced by it, particularly if it is your main source of news.

As the research on Fox News viewers neatly showed after the Iraq war. The viewers scored well on questions like troop deployments and the range and speed of Patriot missiles, but badly on questions like where Iraq was, what the war was about and whether Iraq actually had weapons of mass destruction.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Btw: suggestions that Yates has offered his resignation now.

@cathynewman Met now insisting John Yates isn't resigning - 'currently' or otherwise

 

[ymu]

Saddened by you joining the pack Froggie

Will you just stop this ridiculous sniping. She is right. The Sun and Sunday Times sold way less than usual. Murdoch gave away free advertising to charities and donated all proceeds to charity and a lot of people fell for that, or wanted a souvenir, or bought in bulk to sell on for a profit. I was tempted just to have a copy of NotW advertising LGBT aoption services. D)

Just stop this shit, yeah? It's not getting you anywhere, but it does get your more salient points ignored.