Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Santino]

They chose undecideds. Anyone who is undecided right now is likely to be extremely uninterested in politics.

So extremely uninterested that they could form their own political movement that would be banned for being too extremist.

 

[treelover]

'Will you just stop this ridiculous sniping. She is right. The Sun and Sunday Times sold way less than usual. Murdoch gave away free advertising to charities and donated all proceeds to charity and a lot of people fell for that, or wanted a souvenir, or bought in bulk to sell on for a profit. I was tempted just to have a copy of NotW advertising LGBT aoption services. ()'

Just stop this shit, yeah? It's not getting you anywhere, but it does get your more salient points ignored.


eh, I was referring to Froggie's comment on ''what is the left doing about it?'', the usual refrain from some when I post on here..

 

[London_Calling]

They bought the Daily Mail instead? That's helpful.

 

[paolo]

shit. i've only just realised what it does suggest.

I've read it and read it and still don't understand.

NoW hacked the phone to read the messages?
NoW *sent* the messages?

 

[butchersapron]

Coulsen/Hayman/De Menezies. Do read.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Alan Rusbridger's tame ex-Sun hack Marina Hyde is saying that the website of Outside Organisation, the PR firm Neil Wallis works at these days has downgraded his role from MD to "freelance consultant" between 9am and 11:30am.

Companies House documents (last amended: 20 June) only show one director, mind - Alan Edwards - plus showbiz lawyer Alexis Grower as company secretary, so this may just be a red herring.

 

[DotCommunist]

I've read it and read it and still don't understand.

NoW hacked the phone to read the messages?
NoW *sent* the messages?

thats the implication I drew- it sounds like fantasy land stuff, or would do if the bodies didn't keep coming up on a daily basis.

at the least it compromises key evidence in a murder conviction. At most, we'll what would you charge a hack who did that with?

 

[frogwoman]

Will you just stop this ridiculous sniping. She is right. The Sun and Sunday Times sold way less than usual. Murdoch gave away free advertising to charities and donated all proceeds to charity and a lot of people fell for that, or wanted a souvenir, or bought in bulk to sell on for a profit. I was tempted just to have a copy of NotW advertising LGBT aoption services. D)

Just stop this shit, yeah? It's not getting you anywhere, but it does get your more salient points ignored.

erm, we sorted it out, it's ok

 

[ymu]

'Will you just stop this ridiculous sniping. She is right. The Sun and Sunday Times sold way less than usual. Murdoch gave away free advertising to charities and donated all proceeds to charity and a lot of people fell for that, or wanted a souvenir, or bought in bulk to sell on for a profit. I was tempted just to have a copy of NotW advertising LGBT aoption services. ()'

Just stop this shit, yeah? It's not getting you anywhere, but it does get your more salient points ignored.


eh, I was referring to Froggie's comment on ''what is the left doing about it?'', the usual refrain from some when I post on here..

I misread which post you were responding to. I apologise. Doesn't change the point though. Why do you think people do that if they are not sick to the back teeth of you saying it?

 

[ymu]

erm, we sorted it out, it's ok

I know. Sorry. Had the page tabbed up for a while and didn't realise it had moved on.

I am speaking for myself here too though.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

ITV BREAKING: Police cmmr Sir John Stevenson had 11 dinners with Neil Wallis.

 

[Pickman's model]

ITV BREAKING: Police cmmr Sir John Stevenson had 11 dinners with Neil Wallis.

who? the current met commissioner is sir paul stephenson, who succeeded ian blair, who succeeded john stevens. who do you mean?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Needs some clarification! Either the former or the latter

 

[past caring]

Coulsen/Hayman/De Menezies. Do read.

And make sure you read the comments, also - firm it up.

 

[frogwoman]

I know. Sorry. Had the page tabbed up for a while and didn't realise it had moved on.

I am speaking for myself here too though.

OK

 

[Ted Striker]

And make sure you read the comments, also - firm it up.

Juicy!

 

[ymu]

Coulsen/Hayman/De Menezies. Do read.

18 months old. Any post-Dowler stuff out there yet? Or is someone digging that post up the reason de Menezes is in the whispers today?

The services rendered to the Met by News Corp tabloids have been part of this scandal from the beginning of the first thread here, IIRC. They are were the unofficial propaganda mouthpiece for the police, the Met in particular.

 

[frogwoman]

Any more shit on the Times? Or the wall-street journal for that matter?

 

[butchersapron]

18 months old. Any post-Dowler stuff out there yet? Or is someone digging that post up the reason de Menezes is in the whispers today?
.

The point is to re-read it bearing in mind what we now know.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Could he be extradited or something?

Extraordinary rendition?

 

[butchersapron]

18 months old. Any post-Dowler stuff out there yet? Or is someone digging that post up the reason de Menezes is in the whispers today?

The services rendered to the Met by News Corp tabloids have been part of this scandal from the beginning of the first thread here, IIRC. They are were the unofficial propaganda mouthpiece for the police, the Met in particular.

These aren't whispers about JCDM btw, see the letter from his family today

 

[DaveCinzano]

Kevin Blowe posted about the Met and its 'informal' secret briefings to journalists in relation to the Forest Gate raids yesterday. Along with the Jean Charles de Menezes shooting, it's a subject he's written about previously, worth searching his blog.

 

[ymu]

From Carl Bernstein (in a larger piece about the impact on News Corp in the US):

News International, the British arm of Murdoch’s media empire, “has always worked on the principle of omertà: ‘Do not say anything to anybody outside the family, and we will look after you,’ ” notes a former Murdoch editor who knows the system well. “Now they are hanging people out to dry. The moment you do that, the omertà is gone, and people are going to talk. It looks like a circular firing squad.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/10/murdoch-s-watergate.html

 

[butchersapron]

Here the Metropolitan Police Authority's members for any free diggers

 

[ymu]

The point is to re-read it bearing in mind what we now know.

I had to ask because you just posted a link and told us to read it ... sorry.

Thanks for the letter link. Is what I was after.

 

[two sheds]

Coulsen/Hayman/De Menezies. Do read.

Fascinating stuff, and a good argument for why conspiracy theories just aren't needed.

I wonder if the Ian Tomlinson reporting suffered for similar reasons.

 

[equationgirl]

Alan Rusbridger's tame ex-Sun hack Marina Hyde is saying that the website of Outside Organisation, the PR firm Neil Wallis works at these days has downgraded his role from MD to "freelance consultant" between 9am and 11:30am.

Companies House documents (last amended: 20 June) only show one director, mind - Alan Edwards - plus showbiz lawyer Alexis Grower as company secretary, so this may just be a red herring.

You can be managing director (or indeed, have the job title of director) without being a company director, which is a legal position. The companies house documentation will be correct. It is more than likely he has been relieved of his position as managing director.

 

[Pickman's model]

I wonder if the Ian Tomlinson reporting suffered for similar reasons.

i think there's more than one agenda at work. arguments about the reporting may note links between senior people, but there's also the culture of support for the police among the murdoch press (and of course other papers). in that context, friendships between editors and policemen may play a part, but i suggest that there'd also be a natural sympathy between the journalists and the police given the ethos at ni. not only that, but links between senior policemen and senior ni staff were doubtless mirrored by links between more junior cops and journalists. working hand in glove at every level, really.

 

[DaveCinzano]

You can be managing director (or indeed, have the job title of director) without being a company director, which is a legal position. The companies house documentation will be correct. It is more than likely he has been relieved of his position as managing director.

Ta for the clarification

 

[contadino]

Reuters is reporting that Rupert Murdoch is has refused to go to Tuesday's parliamentary grilling. Silly sod. That's a pretty quick way to be branded 'not fit & proper.' To me, it's looking increasingly like the old bastard's reached his tipping point and is now just running around like a headless chicken.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/14/uk-newscorp-idUKTRE76A1OJ20110714