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Just when I thought the Olympics couldn't depress me further....

Just back from doing weekly shop at Edmonton Green shopping centre and indoor market. Thanks to LOCOG, you wouldn't know the Olympics is on, no Olympic themed anything, anywhere, just a small Coke poster outside ASDA.
 
The rest of the world doesn't care about the coalition though, mistakes make us look like a bunch of fuckwits who can't organise a piss-up in a brewery.

I doubt most of the rest of the world will be paying any attention to these minor cocks-up, that our media are bigging-up, it's mildly amusing, but any event of this scale is going to have minor cock-ups.

I doubt anything major will go wrong and overall the games will be seen as a success.
 
I doubt most of the rest of the world will be paying any attention to these minor cocks-up, that our media are bigging-up, it's mildly amusing, but any event of this scale is going to have minor cock-ups.

I doubt anything major will go wrong and overall the games will be seen as a success.

Yeah, that seems most likely.

Though if we don't get a shitload of medals I'll settle for a devastating series of wildcat strikes.
 
Quite likely.

If there is one country they hate as much or arguably more than the US, it's Japan. Experiences at the hands of Japanese obviously influenced a lot of KIS' thinking and clearly they have seen Japan as their main regional competitor/threat. However the last ~20 years of KJI have focussed heavily on weaving a creation myth around the father, the son (and the holy spirit, Kim Jong-suk) and building a personality cult that's pretty much second to none (Turkmenbashi wasn't even close, as lunatic as he was).

PS The book - nice spot. Must read a copy.

Nah, not so much in being a wartime adversary, but the absorbing of colonial influence inside the country. Leaving aside the Soviet Koreans (Koryo-saram) who later came into the country to join the new government, Kim Il-Sung was the leader of one of two Communist factions that were external to the country and his was favoured and later installed by the Soviet army. Nevertheless, while impressive in fighting the Japanese outside of Korea, his 'guerilla faction' was the most politically unsophisticated in matters of Marxism-Leninism, the other external Korean faction being more capable, but roughly split into intellectual and soldier groups and more connected to the Chinese Communist Party from the days of the Long March and Yan'an.

There was also a 'domestic' faction inside the country weakened by earlier repressions and physically split by the 1945 partition. All other factions were thoroughly purged in the 1960s by the former guerillas. Due to personnel shortages, Myer's argument goes that in the early years, the new authorities to the north of the parallel had to rely on people inside the country more influenced by years of Japanese colonialism and the later militarised emperor cult. He thinks that although Juche has a Stalinist 'form,' it departs from a Confucianist Korean national culture, not converges with it, and has firmer roots in the Japanese presence.
 
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OK so I didn't actually watch it (am now looking at excerpts on Newsnight) but some of the comments on Twitter were funny. This one especially:

@currybet: Awesome. Actual Tory MP complaining on Twitter ceremony is too leftie. WE HAVE ALL WON ALL THE BINGO THINGS!
:D

E2A it looks like it must have been this bloke:

@AidanBurleyMP: Thank God the athletes have arrived Now we can move on from leftie multi-cultural crap
 
ddraig said:
fuck off
try this if you can - imagine if they'd put up the Argentinian flag instead of the english one, would that offend you?

Wouldn't offend me but can't speak for the many. Wasn't there 'fury' when someone didn't sing the national anthem?
 
I don't know what other fellow Leftie posters thought of the opening ceremony, but I grudgingly have to admit that , waste of money as the whole bloody Olympics bollocks is, the opening ceremony, with its blatant celebration of the NHS as one of "our" core values and achievements , its surreal, Pythonesque, piss-taking overall flavour , was imo, a basically subversive "Left of Centre" toned celebration -- which must have caused many a Tory watching to think "how did this disgraceful , disrespectful, Leftie, multicultural, propaganda get commissioned !" A truly "British" humour event that must have left the rest of the world completely bemused ! Mitt Romney must now be saying "see , I told you these Brits were a bunch of Pinko , Commie, Faggots !"
 
I don't know what other fellow Leftie posters thought of the opening ceremony, but I grudgingly have to admit that , waste of money as the whole bloody Olympics bollocks is, the opening ceremony, with its blatant celebration of the NHS as one of "our" core values and achievements , its surreal, Pythonesque, piss-taking overall flavour , was imo, a basically subversive "Left of Centre" toned celebration -- which must have caused many a Tory watching to think "how did this disgraceful , disrespectful, Leftie, multicultural, propaganda get commissioned !" A truly "British" humour event that must have left the rest of the world completely bemused ! Mitt Romney must now be saying "see , I told you these Brits were a bunch of Pinko , Commie, Faggots !"

And sponsored by ATOS and co as well :)
 
I don't know what other fellow Leftie posters thought of the opening ceremony, but I grudgingly have to admit that , waste of money as the whole bloody Olympics bollocks is, the opening ceremony, with its blatant celebration of the NHS as one of "our" core values and achievements , its surreal, Pythonesque, piss-taking overall flavour , was imo, a basically subversive "Left of Centre" toned celebration -- which must have caused many a Tory watching to think "how did this disgraceful , disrespectful, Leftie, multicultural, propaganda get commissioned !" A truly "British" humour event that must have left the rest of the world completely bemused ! Mitt Romney must now be saying "see , I told you these Brits were a bunch of Pinko , Commie, Faggots !"

Like this MP...

Aidan Burley MP ‏@AidanBurleyMP
The most leftie opening ceremony I have ever seen - more than Beijing, the capital of a communist state! Welfare tribute next?

Aidan Burley MP‏@AidanBurleyMP
Thank God the athletes have arrived! Now we can move on from leftie multi-cultural crap. Bring back red arrows, Shakespeare and the Stones!

:facepalm: :D
 
I don't know what other fellow Leftie posters thought of the opening ceremony, but I grudgingly have to admit that , waste of money as the whole bloody Olympics bollocks is, the opening ceremony, with its blatant celebration of the NHS as one of "our" core values and achievements , its surreal, Pythonesque, piss-taking overall flavour , was imo, a basically subversive "Left of Centre" toned celebration -- which must have caused many a Tory watching to think "how did this disgraceful , disrespectful, Leftie, multicultural, propaganda get commissioned !" A truly "British" humour event that must have left the rest of the world completely bemused ! Mitt Romney must now be saying "see , I told you these Brits were a bunch of Pinko , Commie, Faggots !"

i have to agree. Doreen Lawrence carrying the Olympic flag was a nice touch. The NHS celebrated centre stage was a not so subtle two fingers up to Cameron and his privatising NHS hating gang. West Indian immigration celebrated. It was obviously a personal view of what Britain means to Boyle and on the whole I agree with his values. It could have been so different. It could have been military marching bands, celebrations of Empire and Royal pomp, which is what the "pc gorne mad" brigade wanted. Just take a look at the Telegraph or Mail blogs, they are almost exploding with rage, which must mean he did something right.

The Tim Berners Lee part was good too but I think he could have built up to that with more of a celebration of science in general. Newton, Rutherford, Fleming, Darwin etc are all Brits and could have been in there. Perhaps an appearance by Stephen Hawking or Peter Higgs too.
 
that's good news Dylan.

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I am aware of a lot of the criticism of 38°, and in theory I agree with it. However, is this bad news?
 
Don't miss the hapless Jeremy Hunt on BBC News Website, ringing ceremonial handbell, whilst posing about on HMS Belfast, until the bell flies off the handle , narrowly missing removing an onlooker's head ! There's something very "Arnold Rimmer ish" about that man.

I bet Hunt's middle name is Judas, too.
 
i have to agree. Doreen Lawrence carrying the Olympic flag was a nice touch. The NHS celebrated centre stage was a not so subtle two fingers up to Cameron and his privatising NHS hating gang. West Indian immigration celebrated. It was obviously a personal view of what Britain means to Boyle and on the whole I agree with his values. It could have been so different. It could have been military marching bands, celebrations of Empire and Royal pomp, which is what the "pc gorne mad" brigade wanted. Just take a look at the Telegraph or Mail blogs, they are almost exploding with rage, which must mean he did something right.

agree with this - I was expecting something horrible about "England's green and pleasant lands" and it wasn't that, even if it wasn't a radical view of history, it was a fuck load better than it could have been. Also as a show/spectacle it was rather good after the first few minutes. The rings were superb, would have loved to have tech'd that bit of the show.

The Tim Berners Lee part was good too but I think he could have built up to that with more of a celebration of science in general. Newton, Rutherford, Fleming, Darwin etc are all Brits and could have been in there. Perhaps an appearance by Stephen Hawking or Peter Higgs too.


Given that bit was about technology/internet my first thought was that Babbage and Turing should have been (represented) there alongside Tim Berners-Lee.
 
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