Junior doctors strike back on
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Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
As so often happens, the wrong people are on strike here.
In Americas 'fight for $15' is taking place. Home care workers, child care workers, supermarket and fast food workers are on strike.
In Britain 'junior' doctors- who already earn more than most people can ever dream of earning, and will earn even more in years to come are on strike.
Says it all IMHO.
In Americas 'fight for $15' is taking place. Home care workers, child care workers, supermarket and fast food workers are on strike.
In Britain 'junior' doctors- who already earn more than most people can ever dream of earning, and will earn even more in years to come are on strike.
Says it all IMHO.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Looks like you've bought the vermin line on what the strike is about.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
They are the ones on strike because, right now, it is their contracts,and therefore their working hours, under threat. Once the bastard Tories have shafted them, they will move on to other medical workers, none of whom will get a pay rise, and all of whom will end up working more hours for no more money.
This government have no interest in working towards a safe seven day service, or they would not be imposing contracts on junior doctors which will see them working such long hours that they will put patients' at risk!!
Besides, junior doctors are not paid as much as some people seem to think!
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Tu stultus es.
"According to figures from the NHS Employers Organisation, the average total salary for a doctor in training is around £37,000."
Junior doctors' pay: How does your job compare? - BBC News
Yes, but that is only for the first year. Outside of London, £22,000 is actually quite good money, and as a starting salary it would be considered very good indeed.
I'm not saying doctors should be on the minimum wage or anything, but they wouldn't be top of my list of needy causes either...
£22k and having to repay all those loans at 30% interest, as well as the annual fees for membership of whichever branch they want to specialise in. Easy life, they are just being unreasonable!
Plus they are members of the most militant trade union(says Ken Clarke).
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Do you think that attacking the terms and conditions of junior doctors will benefit the terms and conditions of health care assistants?
Louis MacNeice
Do you have sources/ full figures for the 30% interest? If it is a student loan, the interest rate will be *much* lower than that, and repayments linked to salary so they will hardly pay anything until they start moving up the salary brackets........
Anyway this isn't really about salaries it's about causing upset within the NHS.
Spinning it that it is useless and selling it to private health care providers.
That's the issue. Tory tactic show or if not possible make something fail and convince the public that it is nothing to do with Tory policy. Then offload or shut it.
They have hundreds of years experience in it. Bastards!
Spinning it that it is useless and selling it to private health care providers.
That's the issue. Tory tactic show or if not possible make something fail and convince the public that it is nothing to do with Tory policy. Then offload or shut it.
They have hundreds of years experience in it. Bastards!
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
... so yes, they won't have made any dent in the nearly fifty grand that they owe until they get to the stage where they are going to find it very difficult to pay any of it back.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Care to supply some evidence in support of this generalisation; or was it just an unsubstantiated, anti-striker, rhetorical flourish?
Louis MacNeice
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
A fuckin' tedious pain the fuckin' arse, & make no mistake!
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Fuck you you neolib twat.
Not heard anything from any other union yet except the update I just received from Unite re the situation.
Junior doctor contract imposition ‘nuclear option’, says Unite
Junior doctor contract imposition ‘nuclear option’, says Unite
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Now, now reverend.
Only typing what others are thinking, it's the man flu what made me do it.
Not enough lamp posts for these neolibs
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
It is hard to go on strike when you are on a zero hours contract.
Get well soon.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Reading through things it does sound like the junior doctors are seen/see themselves as the guards at the floodgates, so to speak, in the sense that if this goes through then everyone else is next. They're standing up for themselves, and everyone else who is standing behind them, sort of thing.
Also, I'll keep repeating it: it's not either/or, just because one group is able to fight for better wages doesn't mean another can't/shouldn't. A large, large majority of the population should have better wages, in relative terms at least. We should be lifting each other up, not dragging each other down.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
There's deffo a trickle down feeling with this, no doubt about it. What chance do council workers on 12k a year stand if Gov can change doctors contracts at a whim. We're all in this together!
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