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Jamie Oliver is STILL a massive cahnt

How do you know that people didn't buy these now normal size tellies when in work then were sacked? Why are you making so many stupid assumptions Allegra? Why such stupid binary choices as well, with people making the wrong one. And Oliver's point was the opposite of yours anyway, he was saying they had enough money to make different healthier choices despite having a decent tv, not that they chose a decent tv over feeding their kids healthily. He was just calling them thick - you're calling them thick, abusive of their kids and obsessively materialistic.

There's a difference between calling someone thick and calling someone uneducated.:rolleyes:

But anyway, your argument appears to be that anything he has to say on the matter should be ignored because he's not working class enough :facepalm:

I knew I shouldn't have taken you off my ignore list last week, sorry about that.
 
Who said the payments for the telly mean that children go without food?
Are you implying poor people who buy a large telly don't care for their children? What an odd statement.
You should have a tv that needs winding up and invite your kid's friends around to watch the static it shows 24/7. That will make their time at School totally bearable. You shouldn't really have that unless you work 80 hours a week. Not one of those 80 hour weeks out in the cold or in kitchens that poor people have but an 80 hour week in a warm office with long lunches and lots of working from home.
 
There's a difference between calling someone thick and calling someone uneducated.:rolleyes:

But anyway, your argument appears to be that anything he has to say on the matter should be ignored because he's not working class enough :facepalm:

I knew I shouldn't have taken you off my ignore list last week, sorry about that.

What is it with people like you? :D Crack on.
 
If you ever meet anyone who works for Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council it's worth asking them what they thought of Jamie's Ministry of Food and how much it benefited the people of Rotherham. I suspect he's more hated there than anywhere.

I'm off to find ten mussels for my tea anyone got any ideas?

Some bins round the back of posh peoples house?
 
london class war (april 2005) said:
JAMIE OLIVER'S GUILT TRIP
Many of us will have seen Jamie's new TV show about school
dinners, with him dribbling on about salads and organic vegetables,
and once again mainly attacking parents, not attacking the
government. Wasn't it Thatcher who cut back on healthy school
dinners by introducing fast food because it would cost the
government less, whose idea was it to create fast food chains
everywhere you turn, burger bars, kebab shops, etc…

In London the skyline is taking over by massive billboards advertising
fast food chains, Jamie's stance is putting the guilt trip on parents
and ignoring the fact that the government are mainly to blame… It
seems we are forced fed watching the nations favourite mockney
slow roast himself into near-bankruptcy and despair, we see once
again Oliver talking a load of shit.

Hoxton Apprentice
Hoxton seems to be lacking in originality, filled by shitty over-priced
bars,
art galleries, more shitty bars and more shitty art galleries, a couple of
crap local shops, and a fw cafes it was beginning to feel like Hoxton
really needed something new, something not arty, not "oh so cool"
trendy, just somewhere fresh and original. Excitement in Hoxton that
a new restaurant had landed in the middle of Hoxton Square, at last
someone might have decided to try something a little different. The
wait for the new original concept had been in vain, as Hoxton
Apprentice, is in fact another Jamie Oliver rip-off-style "Fifteen", not
two minutes down the road from Fifteen.
nice to see people catching up with us.
 
There's a difference between calling someone thick and calling someone uneducated.:rolleyes:

But anyway, your argument appears to be that anything he has to say on the matter should be ignored because he's not working class enough :facepalm:

I knew I shouldn't have taken you off my ignore list last week, sorry about that.
What he's sayin is that a multi millionaire has no place lecturing relatively poor people on their eating habits ,without making some sort of referance to the fact that he's a multi millionaire and that's because of the way capitalist society is structured,not because people are uneducated or thick,thicky
 
There's a difference between calling someone thick and calling someone uneducated.:rolleyes:

I might use this line with some of the families I support and see how many seconds it takes for the door to slam in my face :D

However well-meaning Oliver thinks he is, there is a massive power relationship here that may be virtually invisible to Oliver but is all too visible to those he is trying to "educate". That's where the politics is.
 
There's a difference between calling someone thick and calling someone uneducated.:rolleyes:

not really. there is a difference in the meaning but there is no difference in the intent. there's a difference between thinking or concluding someone is thick and someone is uneducated but if you say it to someone you're saying 'you are less than me'.
 
The '32-inch flat screen telly' thing popped up in some shit judgemental Daily Mail article a few months ago, as if this was some sort of luxury item. They're, what, £150 for a cheap shit one these days? Less than a hundred second hand, maybe forty or fifty notes off gumtree if you look about, sometimes free from friends/relatives. Someone tell Middle England that Plasma tellies don't cost two grand anymore. It's an anachronistic stick to beat the 'welfare scroungers'.

We shouldn't be asking politicians if they know the price of milk, ask them about the price of bottom-rung tellies.

Also bear in mind some people in poverty have worked in the past and have bought nice things when they've worked, or received gifts from relatives. You don't rescind the right to these items when you start signing on.

You get the feeling the Mail would like people to live in tents or something, it's not fair that the workless have homes, those homes could provide valuable buy-to-let investments for the equity-rich middle classes.
 
The '32-inch flat screen telly' thing popped up in some shit judgemental Daily Mail article a few months ago, as if this was some sort of luxury item. They're, what, £150 for a cheap shit one these days? Less than a hundred second hand, maybe forty or fifty notes off gumtree if you look about, sometimes free from friends/relatives. Someone tell Middle England that Plasma tellies don't cost two grand anymore. It's an anachronistic stick to beat the 'welfare scroungers'.

Exactly, in some stores they're pretty much the smallest size you can buy!
 
What he's sayin is that a multi millionaire has no place lecturing relatively poor people on their eating habits ,without making some sort of referance to the fact that he's a multi millionaire and that's because of the way capitalist society is structured,not because people are uneducated or thick,thicky


Although a chef is well placed to offer cooking advice to people. Additionally when I look up recipes I don't want the chef to try to educate me about the unjust structure of capitalist society.
 
We should eat the rich!

some of the bastards have been dieting to make less of a meal come the day

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Although a chef is well placed to offer cooking advice to people. Additionally when I look up recipes I don't want the chef to try to educate me about the unjust structure of capitalist society.

He's not you prat, he's demonstrating the unquestioned assumptions and social prejudice that lie behind scrounger-culture apologetic for benefit cuts. You don't actually think hmm he has a point - you use him to attack the former. This is all quite simple.
 
The Hoxton Apprentice was a good training organisation, IMO. I am sorry to see that it has closed down.

It provided high-quality practical training to keen unemployed youngsters from some of the toughest and most gun-ridden neighbourhoods in Hackney. The people providing the training were patient, but demanded high standards, were very experienced in the restaurant business, really knew their stuff and cared about helping the youngsters. I had a lot of respect for them.

It worked.

It was more associated with Prue Leith than Jamie Oliver. (I don't remember any mention of Jamie Oliver.)
 
Although a chef is well placed to offer cooking advice to people. Additionally when I look up recipes I don't want the chef to try to educate me about the unjust structure of capitalist society.

We're not talking about him as a chef but as an expression of part of society and what certain privileged people are pushing very hard to be that societies 'common sense' - being a chef is irrelevant to this. You're on the wrong thread.
 
He's not you prat, he's demonstrating the unquestioned assumptions and social prejudice that lie behind scrounger-culture apologetic for benefit cuts. You don't actually think hmm he has a point - you use him to attack the former. This is all quite simple.


Thanks for setting me straight. I thought that it was just another cookery program.
 
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