Aside from the price of food, the time it takes to cook a meal is surely also an issue? Working a full-day, picking kids up from school/childcare, then getting them to do their homework whilst cooking from scratch is pretty hard, especially compared to being a middle-class stay-at-home mum/dad who has had all day to prepare it.
Jamie Oliver is STILL a massive cahnt
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Indeed, and that what's people who can afford to buy stuff outright don't get. They don't even know that is the only option for what they take as basics but that others see as a luxury.
Some tuss was complaining earlier about how the poor should eat free range chicken before buying expensive TV's. I found the price of their free range versus other chicken on the website. If you don't have free range once a week you can save enough to get a hd ready 32 inch tv every year with change. No brainer.You know the price of various bags, the content and the likely time it will last. Yeah, you don't go there
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Also I've never seen this Oliver cunt do the dishes.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yep, when i'm working full time i usually am too fucked to cook when i get home
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
He's definitely a massive cunt but what do you expect from a UKIP supporter?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/13/jamie-oliver-praises-ukip_n_3264693.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/13/jamie-oliver-praises-ukip_n_3264693.html
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
he should have stacked that chicken chaser lambretta under an arctic long ago- but there is no justice
bi0boy
Power User
Rubbish, it's the desire to own a massive telly that's the problem, you can probably get a basic second hand one for the price of a single monthly payment on a snazzy one.
We had a black and white 14" TV until 1996 when my grandparents gave us their old portable colour set. Buying expensive things on hire purchase instead of feeding the kids isn't the only option for most people by any means.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Is that you Jamie?
The w/c should desire less than others. Especially to what are socially recognised basics. The grasping materialist swines. Get back to your tiny black and white tellys they don't make anymore.
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
Really? Are you saying that a successful chef should avoid the subject of 'money saving meals' because they are privileged?
I don't think anyone's saying that they should feed their families on fuck all. I've not seen the program but it seems to me to be about how to cook on a budget.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yeah, they should fuck right off out it or question what social conditions have led to them being paid to make this food-for-povs program. And at least try to cover up their big-telly social prejudices.
JHE
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I don't like his comments at all.
It's only fair to say, though, that snobbery, a failure of imagination and some inclination to have a go at people who have very little money are not the only influences on what he's said. There is one other, I think. For a person who is fascinated by and extremely knowledgeable about food and very skilled at preparing food, the ignorance he notices among very many of us, very broke or not so broke, must be a bit frustrating.
It's only fair to say, though, that snobbery, a failure of imagination and some inclination to have a go at people who have very little money are not the only influences on what he's said. There is one other, I think. For a person who is fascinated by and extremely knowledgeable about food and very skilled at preparing food, the ignorance he notices among very many of us, very broke or not so broke, must be a bit frustrating.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
barefoot to school over broken glass
bamalama
don't do that
It's not a lambretta,it is shite though
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
But it's a food program - not a program about politics. I've no idea what Jamie Oliver thinks about the politics of poverty and I don't think it's necessary that I know because he's a chef.
Mungy
i haz boobz
belly pork used to be cheap until a celeb chef came along and made it popular, now it's expensive.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Wev'e just seen/read what he thinks about the politics of poverty. He'll take payment to make a program that ignores them and publicly display classic social 'it's their own fault' prejudice. So he'll ignore them whilst expressing the worst parts of scrounger-culture idiocy. Pretty clear.
pissflaps
i've got a headache in my pants...
so do i. whats your point?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
did you not read the word that came out of his mouth? its screamingly obvious what he thinks about the politics of poverty
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Who said the payments for the telly mean that children go without food?
Are you implying poor people who buy a large telly don't care for their children? What an odd statement.
bi0boy
Power User
It's not fucking rocket science putting food before expensive massive televisions ffs. I'm not saying people should be in the position to have to make such terribe choices, and I realise most of the global population dont have the luxury of having to do so, but the fact is some people in this country do have to make those decisions.
bamalama
don't do that
We didn't even buy our cheap telly,it came with the house... we live off one wage and can barely afford to buy decent amounts of fresh fruit and vegetables.We can buy some, but we don't have a social life,we don't drink,i don't earn hardly anythin at the minute and i can go for weeks without spendin a fuckin penny.I havn't had any new clothes for near four years,and we can just cover the rent.Is that enough sacrifice for ye,you fuckin knobber.Why don't ye fuck off with your deserving/ undeserving tory fuckin shite
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
His programmes about poor nutrition are absolutely dripping with political assumptions and convictions. He managed to get a one-to-one interview with Blair on the school dinners one. It's about as political as it gets, surely?
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
I've not seen the program so I don't know. All I know what Jamie Oliver thinks about poverty is that piece in the Indi that seems to misrepresent what he said in order to get more people to read the piece.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
How do you know that people didn't buy these now normal size tellies when in work then were sacked? Why are you making so many stupid assumptions Allegra? Why such stupid binary choices as well, with people making the wrong one. And Oliver's point was the opposite of yours anyway, he was saying they had enough money to make different healthier choices despite having a decent tv, not that they chose a decent tv over feeding their kids healthily. He was just calling them thick - you're calling them thick, abusive of their kids and obsessively materialistic.
JHE
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People's financial circumstances change. When people make the decision to buy, say, a good modern telly with a big screen, it is NOT when they are having trouble feeding their children or themselves.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
You were lucky.
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