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Jamie Oliver is STILL a massive cahnt


I think you'll find that equationgirl was picking you up on your use of the word "chavs" to describe the Beckhams.

You may have noticed that the word is generally frowned upon here and elsewhere for its classist connotations, and most vaguely-thinking people avoid its use for that reason. There is further irony in you using it in a thread which was originally about JO talking down to the "thick proles" for their supposed eating habits.

I suspect some sort of auto-correct function changed the word in her post to "chaos", which is mildly amusing in its own right.
 
It is a bit ridiculous though. Who cares if paella technically should or should not include chorizo? Recipes are not static items, never to be changed. Thank god, otherwise we'd all still be eating 1970s crap.

Besides, paella can certainly contain paprika and chorizo is just paprika'd pork. Arborio rice cooked with wine and stock in a big shallow pan with some characteristic veg and chicken... plus chorizo -- calling it anything other than paella is just :rolleyes:
 
It is a bit ridiculous though. Who cares if paella technically should or should not include chorizo? Recipes are not static items, never to be changed. Thank god, otherwise we'd all still be eating 1970s crap.

Besides, paella can certainly contain paprika and chorizo is just paprika'd pork. Arborio rice cooked with wine and stock in a big shallow pan with some characteristic veg and chicken... plus chorizo -- calling it anything other than paella is just :rolleyes:

I'm not so sure, it's like Boeuf bourguignon with orange juice instead of wine. However, it goes a bit more than just ingredients as the term paella comes from the pan it is cooked in. The rice dish cooked by oliver is not cooked in a paella dish.
 
I'm not so sure, it's like Boeuf bourguignon with orange juice instead of wine. However, it goes a bit more than just ingredients as the term paella comes from the pan it is cooked in. The rice dish cooked by oliver is not cooked in a paella dish.
I have two paella dishes. Frankly, I'm not surprised that most people in the UK would not have similar, because they are very large and of niche use only. The difference between using them and using a bog standard skillet is not so great.
 
I have two paella dishes. Frankly, I'm not surprised that most people in the UK would not have similar, because they are very large and of niche use only. The difference between using them and using a bog standard skillet is not so great.
I think your missing the key point here, which is that Jamie Oliver is a fucking prick.

I just died a little inside typing that, as my phone predicted Oliver to follow Jamie. As I have never typed his name on this phone that means it's programmed that way. :(:mad:
 
He is a fucking prick indeed. I prefer to think him a fucking prick for the things he does that are actually the actions of a fucking prick, though. Not for doing what a sleb chef is supposed to do, which is to suggest pragmatic recipes for the masses.
 
I'm not so sure, it's like Boeuf bourguignon with orange juice instead of wine. However, it goes a bit more than just ingredients as the term paella comes from the pan it is cooked in. The rice dish cooked by oliver is not cooked in a paella dish.

Oh what an oik he is, pandering to the nouveau middle class who regularly commit such cultural faux pas as not cooking paella in a paella dish.
 
It is a bit ridiculous though. Who cares if paella technically should or should not include chorizo? Recipes are not static items, never to be changed. Thank god, otherwise we'd all still be eating 1970s crap.

Besides, paella can certainly contain paprika and chorizo is just paprika'd pork. Arborio rice cooked with wine and stock in a big shallow pan with some characteristic veg and chicken... plus chorizo -- calling it anything other than paella is just :rolleyes:

The 5 million Valencians for whom paella is their national dish might disagree with you.

Traditional paella doesn't include pork in any form, nor does it include arborio rice.

Bizarre that you should mention not being stuck in the 70's in your defence of appropriating traditional local recipes and turning them into attempted mass-market mish-mashes, given that's arguably when the whole process that led us to Jamie's faux paella began.

He's perhaps less of a cunt for this than some of the other stuff mentioned earlier in the thread, but this sort of culinary misappropriation still makes him a cunt, IMO.
 
And there, ladies and gentlemen, we have the kind of food regionalism snobbery that puts people off trying stuff. Utterly ridiculous. "Misappropriation", for fuck sake. Like only the Valencians should be allowed to decide what goes with rice, veg and stock.
 
A decade on a STILL a massive racist cahnt. Trying to join the shit kids book bandwagon. I feel sorry for any child having four hundred pages of shite dumped in their stocking on Christmas morning.

What a phukka; worse than Budgie the helicopter!


 
A decade on a STILL a massive racist cahnt. Trying to join the shit kids book bandwagon. I feel sorry for any child having four hundred pages of shite dumped in their stocking on Christmas morning.

What a phukka; worse than Budgie the helicopter!


I do attach about 90% of the blame to the publishers for the debacle, though. Sensitivity readings should be bread and butter to them. It should never have got through editing.
 
I mean especially for PRH, and especially if you've got someone like Oliver who has a bit of a thing for getting in hot water.

Though, to whoever the individual editor was... Look, just come out and say you got 10 pages into 352 pages of Jamie Oliver writing fiction for 7-11 year olds and gave up, people will understand.
 
I mean especially for PRH, and especially if you've got someone like Oliver who has a bit of a thing for getting in hot water.

Though, to whoever the individual editor was... Look, just come out and say you got 10 pages into 352 pages of Jamie Oliver writing fiction for 7-11 year olds and gave up, people will understand.
Love this post.
 
It is a bit ridiculous though. Who cares if paella technically should or should not include chorizo? Recipes are not static items, never to be changed. Thank god, otherwise we'd all still be eating 1970s crap.

Besides, paella can certainly contain paprika and chorizo is just paprika'd pork. Arborio rice cooked with wine and stock in a big shallow pan with some characteristic veg and chicken... plus chorizo -- calling it anything other than paella is just :rolleyes:

You might get lynched in Valencia for this. I can see it both ways.
 
As a general rule, I don't allow myself to get mugged off by buying kids books by "celebrities" who are not known for their writing ability. The tend to be overpriced and rubbish. Take that book Meghan Duchess of Sussex wrote. Nearly twice the price of similar sized kids books and frankly, a load of boring crap.
As for Jamie Oliver, someone should tell him it's a good idea to at least learn the basics of the stolen generation before deciding to write a whole book about them!
 
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