I think Rooney is a good player but for me he hasn't fulfilled the (awesome) potential I thought he had when he was 18. You get flashes of his brilliance (the overhead against Man City) but he never seems to take a game by 'the scruff of the neck' like I thought he would 8 years ago. As for Carroll ge's just an old fashioned centre forward - I think Italian defenders would make him look very ordinary.
ITALY vs England
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Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Thats bollocks - If England get to the semi-finals, Hodgson and the England team will have far exceeded expectations and the media - far from slagging them off and calling for Hodgson's head - will be hyping them up as favourites for the next world cup in 2014.
southside
Banned
He is a pretty good player but is he worth £31M?, our cobbled together team are doing OK really and I hope that we can win, it's just the dread of watching a team that play their football right on the edge. It's a stressful experience watching England play.
I think Rooney has been very disappointing for England over the years but he is a seriously marked man and with England and their haphazard way of playing there is little wonder that he gets frustrated and looses his rag. Lets just hope that he can show some of the magic that he displays with Manushited.
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Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I think even an honourable defeat to Italy and most fans will be content with the work done.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Except... you would hope that at the very least the entire centre midfield, and probably the wide players are different in 2 years time.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Really?. The performances have been shoddy. England should be aiming higher than simple containment football.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fantastic - we don't even do being shit good enough for some.
Lets see what happens Tim. The English media don't change.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Does anyone on the planet think differently? Other than Joe Reilly?
Meanwhile, Italy are spending the night watching porn, rather than practising penalties or owt
http://m.mirror.co.uk/ms/p/tmg/mirr...s-gianluigi-buffon-jokes-he-will-watch-907133
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Makes a change from his Il Duce films i suppose.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Our young Nick Powell will have a few years in the Prem under his belt by then, and the world will be at our feet.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Errr... how? Most of the players in the current first team have been playing the same stodgy shit for England for a decade. They're magically going to change now?
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Who?. The top clubs in England don't play as negative as that.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
They're not playing for the top clubs in England though, are they? They're playing for England. A team that has played the same stodgy shite for a decade, under a variety of managers both English and foreign.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
half the team are from Liverpool
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
And that's the best you can hope for?
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
From these England players. Yes. Why would you expect anything else? It's the same players.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
It's not though, Ashley Young, Oxade-Chamberlin, Wellbeck etc are all new and can play a bit.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
"etc." meaning who? One out-of-form winger, an 18 year old fringe player and a striker aren't going to transform a team that is based around the same players.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm confused. Are we supposed to be talking England up or down now they're in the quarters?
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Praising their modest achievements up to now, given their limitations.
not-bono-ever
meh
I think Italy will edge this Englanders. Im obv. ABE, but not keen on the cynical way Italy play the game - I dont think they will get a hat trick, but if they go ahead, then I would suugest you are fucked. England going ahead however could be interesting - My Crystal ball sees a red card for England if this happens - Still, QF or better in a Euros is nothing to be ashamed of , even if it ends there. Should you win, then you could go all the way. fuck.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Modest chap.
jiggajagga
Judge_Mental
£10 Italy to win by 2 goals @9/1 = a nice £100 return. 2-0, 3-1 Any will do. Italy only team to have given Spain a game. Who have we beat? Sweden meh! Ukraine ranked 52. Drew with France and we were lucky to do so. France hammered by Spain last night!
Spain v Italy final
