Ireland election 2016

[LiamO]

Apparently Burton got in due to AAA campaign of no transfers to SF.

That's completely crazy given that there were no AAA transfers to anyone. Ruth Coppinger took the second seat but didn't reach the quota. Every AAA vote was used up on the AAA candidate. Even if every single AAA voter had Donnelly number 2, he would have got zero transfers. It's also completely crazy in the sense that the AAA said nothing at all about transfers to anyone anyway.

Coming on here with your pesky fact after 8den has already pronounced what happened...

Donnelly lost to Burton because his campaign was complacent and didn't get all of their vote out. There was a widely publicised constituency poll during the campaign, which showed Coppinger edging out Burton for the last seat with Donnelly romping home. The bookies had him 100/1 on to take a seat. The poll had the effect of galvanising support for Coppinger and Burton, with it looking like a straight choice between the two. Meanwhile it looked like SF had a seat in the bag and it was taken for granted. The Donnelly camp are now extremely sulky but they only have themselves to blame.

No doubt there will be questions in the Kremlin over this. SF pride themselves on their vote management.

 

[8den]

This started by someone comparing knock to the DART and then the suggestion that its choice of location had nothing to do with religion.

Both are absurd notions.

But yes the soldiers are back but it's theirs 2nd worst showing in 99 years

 

[LiamO]

Just a cursory glance at population statistics for regions in Ireland would say that it would be closer to travel to Knock airport for about 800,000 Irish people than it is to go to Shannon, Cork or Dublin

And that's just the ones who still live here... ie not counting the tens of thousands of emigrants who return home for holidays, weddings and funerals. But they are Boggers all, so they don't count.

 

[LiamO]

But yes the soldiers are back but it's theirs 2nd worst showing in 99 years

And you are back but this has been your worst showing in... well since yesterday really.

 

[LiamO]

You left rather early of the evening old chum. But thanks to the extra 20 there's a few on for you in the tap tomorrow afternoon if you choose to take the offer .

Chin chin .

Hmmm. I shall put this to the test during the Mayo v Donegal match this afternoon.

 

[N_igma]

This started by someone comparing knock to the DART and then the suggestion that its choice of location had nothing to do with religion.

Both are absurd notions.

But yes the soldiers are back but it's theirs 2nd worst showing in 99 years

This isn't really about how the argument started its about you not thinking the region is worthy of such infrastructure. Calling it a 'boondoggle' and what not. Now after being presented with the facts are you willing to retract your statement that it is a 'boondoggle'?

 

[LiamO]

This isn't really about how the argument started its about you not thinking the region is worthy of such infrastructure. Calling it a 'boondoggle' and what not. Now after being presented with the facts are you willing to retract your statement that it is a 'boondoggle'?

He is in his D4 hole

 

[8den]

This isn't really about how the argument started its about you not thinking the region is worthy of such infrastructure. Calling it a 'boondoggle' and what not. Now after being presented with the facts are you willing to retract your statement that it is a 'boondoggle'?

I don't doubt the north west needs a regional airport, I reject the notion that its choice of location had nothing to do with religion.

 

[8den]

Coming on here with your pesky fact after 8den has already pronounced what happened...

I didn't say that's what happened that's why the word "apparently" was at the start of my sentence.

 

[Idris2002]

I don't doubt the north west needs a regional airport, I reject the notion that its choice of location had nothing to do with religion.

If there was a religious connection, it was that the flow of pilgrims to the Knock shrine made the proposed airport a feasible economic proposition.

It's not the equivalent of Werner Herzog pulling an entire steam ship through the Brazilian jungle, as you are trying to insinuate.

 

[8den]

If there was a religious connection, it was that the flow of pilgrims to the Knock shrine made the proposed airport a feasible economic proposition.

It's not the equivalent of Werner Herzog pulling an entire steam ship through the Brazilian jungle, as you are trying to insinuate.

If it was a feasible economic proposition it still wouldn't need economic subsidises 30 years after it was opened.

 

[Idris2002]

If it was a feasible economic proposition it still wouldn't need economic subsidises 30 years after it was opened.

Yes, it's subsidized and it's money well spent.

Do you ever listen to yourself? You sound like a fucking PD.

 

[8den]

Yes, it's subsidized and it's money well spent.

Fine just don't compare it to the DART & don't try and bullshit that its existence isn't down to religion

Do you ever listen to yourself? You sound like a fucking PD.

And you sound like a cunt who'd defend Lowry saying "sure he fixed the roads!"

 

[Idris2002]

In 2004 8den's beloved DART got an operating subsidy of 11 million per annum according to this story:

Subsidy for Luas if passenger numbers are low

In the case of Knock airport, meanwhile:

The Irish Times alleges that €2.2 million of the €5.7 million in State airport subsidies went towards covering losses at Kerry, Knock and Waterford. It is important to note that of this figure, Knock Airport received core operational support of approximately €500,000 which equates to just 22 per cent of total operational support claimed by regional airports. Knock had a throughput of 665,000 passengers in 2013 which is more than the other three regional airports of Kerry, Waterford, Donegal combined,” he said.

O’Mahony challenges ‘misinformation’ on Knock Airport

 

[Idris2002]

And you sound like a cunt who'd defend Lowry saying "sure he fixed the roads!"

If you said that to my face in real life, you'd get a swift upper cut to the jaw.

 

[8den]

If you said that to my face in real life, you'd get a swift upper cut to the jaw.

Lucky you're another internet hard man then.

 

[Idris2002]

Lucky you're another internet hard man then.

This canned spinach has a marvellous effect on my upper body strength.

 

[8den]

Well just when you thought this weekend couldn't get any worse Beloved actor Frank Kelly has died aged 77

Dermot Morgan passed away this day 18 years ago as well...

 

[Idris2002]

I suppose you've all seen that Frank Kelly, who won international acclaim for his sensitive and moving portrayal of Father Jack Hackett, in the long-running sitcom Father Ted, has died?

 

[SpackleFrog]

Are AAA/PBP gonna make the magic 7 then? Or not?

 

[SpackleFrog]

Lucky you're another internet hard man then.

Do you ever shut up?

 

[Saul Goodman]

Don't disagree it's just there's a perfectly good airport in Shannon.

You really are a bell-end, aren't you.

He is in his D4 hole

Ah, D4... nuff said.

 

[Casually Red]

If it was a feasible economic proposition it still wouldn't need economic subsidises 30 years after it was opened.

 

[flypanam]

Are AAA/PBP gonna make the magic 7 then? Or not?

There's a chance, slim, but Brid Smith is enduring a re count in South Central and there is some twitter talk that John Lyons in Dublin Bay North is in third position.

 

[flypanam]

Seems one of the Dails stand out dummies Heather Humphries has been re-elected in Cavan Monaghan but has come out saying that a FF/FG gov could be a option.

Anyway good analysis from Gene Kerrigan Welcome to slowly evolving change - Independent.ie

 

[SpackleFrog]

There's a chance, slim, but Brid Smith is enduring a re count in South Central and there is some twitter talk that John Lyons in Dublin Bay North is in third position.

How many definites so far?

And why does it take you bog dwellers so long to count?

 

[flypanam]

How many definites so far?

And why does it take you bog dwellers so long to count?

5

STV the herpes of electoral systems. You never quite get over it.

 

[8den]

O dea has claimed that if FF are in gov water charges will be gone in a week. That could be problematic for the Ah sure it's grand coalition...

 

[8den]

How many definites so far?

And why does it take you bog dwellers so long to count?

Donnelly got in on the 17th count last time and that's South south Dublin.

 

[flypanam]

Some spectacular stupidity from out going labour TD Michael McNamara concerning facebook posts...
“I think people in Clare take their politics seriously and are mature about it and I think that by and large don’t descend to that.

“It is not unique to me - it is every TD in Leinster House and it intensified during the election.”

He said: "“It is a strange phenomenon - the way people discourse on social media - the dehumanising effect of it all. ‘I look forward to the day you lost your seat’ is one of the messages that I have received.

He said: “I don’t fully understand what drives someone to go out at night-time and sit down and post something on their Facebook page telling them that ‘I look forward to your demise’. It is a phenomenon of social media - it is not unique to politics."

Might be that a person has been so affected by your targeting of them with government policies that inflicted untold hurt, might use the opportunity to lash out. You voted for policies that affected people you couldn't/didn't see, so payback on FB is just the mirror image.