Influence of Russian Oligarchs in UK

[teqniq]

With the report into Russian interference in the runup to the General election still not forthcoming and rumours of influence above and beyond what could be considered healthy, particularly in respect of the tory party, we now have this:

Underground Russian Influence: Johnson and the Ghost Station

Turlough Conway on how a new legal case against Boris Johnson raises more questions about money laundered in London and Conservative connections to Russia.

bylinetimes.com

A name that I've seen linked to various shady goings-on keeps cropping up. Dmytro Firtash. Considered to be a serious security risk by a number of western intelligence agencies he now owes the UK taxpayer a cool £80 million for the purchase of an underground station - not the we're likely to ever see any of it. The whole thing reeks of corruption at the highest levels.

 

[MrSki]

Byline Times seems to be the last stand for investigative journalism.

 

[Chilli.s]

The report into Russian interference is long overdue, just wtf is going on...

 

[Dogsauce]

The report into Russian interference is long overdue, just wtf is going on...

I’m sure they’ll sneak it out once Covid-19 dominates all other news.

 

[Marty1]

With the report into Russian interference in the runup to the General election still not forthcoming and rumours of influence above and beyond what could be considered healthy, particularly in respect of the tory party, we now have this:

Underground Russian Influence: Johnson and the Ghost Station

Turlough Conway on how a new legal case against Boris Johnson raises more questions about money laundered in London and Conservative connections to Russia.

bylinetimes.com

A name that I've seen linked to various shady goings-on keeps cropping up. Dmytro Firtash. Considered to be a serious security risk by a number of western intelligence agencies he now owes the UK taxpayer a cool £80 million for the purchase of an underground station - not the we're likely to ever see any of it. The whole thing reeks of corruption at the highest levels.

The Byeline Times?

Never heard of them - google search pulls up very little apart from, of all places -

Of all No Deal conspiracies, claim it's a plot by bankers is loopy

DOMINIC LAWSON: From the day we voted to leave the European Union, those most unhappy with the result have been intent on undermining that popular verdict's legitimacy with conspiracy theories.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Sadly for those who want to believe in conspiratorial fantasies, this allegation of multi-billion-pound corruption of the PM by pro-Brexit speculators is fiction. But like most such conspiracy theories, it didn't just come out of thin air.

In fact, it comes from a recent article in a somewhat obscure new publication called Byline Times

The article goes on to make a quote from the Financial Times apparently ridiculing Byline Times.

I’ve clicked on another story from this site:

Russian Influence Part I: What Johnson Doesn't Want You to Know

With the British Prime Minister personally intervening to suppress a parliamentary report into Putin's 'active measures' in UK politics, Byline Times reveals what Johnson wants to hide.

bylinetimes.com

- and you’ve just got to skim through the first few
sections to see it quoting totally discredited CNN and partisan sources (Adam Schiff) obsessed with Russia to heavily doubt its veracity.

Imo, Byline Times is a fringe conspiracy theory site - classic tinfoil hat territory.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The report into Russian interference is long overdue, just wtf is going on...

The government is sitting on it, because they can and why wouldn't they?

If Grieve had any balls he'd just send it to the papers.

 

[teqniq]

The Byeline Times?

Never heard of them - google search pulls up very little apart from, of all places -

Of all No Deal conspiracies, claim it's a plot by bankers is loopy

DOMINIC LAWSON: From the day we voted to leave the European Union, those most unhappy with the result have been intent on undermining that popular verdict's legitimacy with conspiracy theories.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The Fail. That paragon of unbiased drivel masquerading as journalisim. Lol.

The article goes on to make a quote from the Financial Times apparently ridiculing Byline Times.

I’ve clicked on another story from this site:

Russian Influence Part I: What Johnson Doesn't Want You to Know

With the British Prime Minister personally intervening to suppress a parliamentary report into Putin's 'active measures' in UK politics, Byline Times reveals what Johnson wants to hide.

bylinetimes.com

- and you’ve just got to skim through the first few
sections to see it quoting totally discredited CNN and partisan sources (Adam Schiff) obsessed with Russia to heavily doubt its veracity.

Imo, Byline Times is a fringe conspiracy theory site - classic tinfoil hat territory.

'Shifty' Adam Schiff as Trump calls him. I wonder why he would use such emotive language, not. Nevertheless, there are still unasnwered questions surrounding pretty much all of Trump's business dealings.

 

[teqniq]

Covers some of the stuff I've linked to above and more

 

[SpineyNorman]

The Byeline Times?

Never heard of them - google search pulls up very little apart from, of all places -

Of all No Deal conspiracies, claim it's a plot by bankers is loopy

DOMINIC LAWSON: From the day we voted to leave the European Union, those most unhappy with the result have been intent on undermining that popular verdict's legitimacy with conspiracy theories.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The article goes on to make a quote from the Financial Times apparently ridiculing Byline Times.

I’ve clicked on another story from this site:

Russian Influence Part I: What Johnson Doesn't Want You to Know

With the British Prime Minister personally intervening to suppress a parliamentary report into Putin's 'active measures' in UK politics, Byline Times reveals what Johnson wants to hide.

bylinetimes.com

- and you’ve just got to skim through the first few
sections to see it quoting totally discredited CNN and partisan sources (Adam Schiff) obsessed with Russia to heavily doubt its veracity.

Imo, Byline Times is a fringe conspiracy theory site - classic tinfoil hat territory.

Haven't you got a moon to howl at or something?

Large powerful states interfering in elections (and just about anything else) in other countries in an attempt to advance their own interests is not tinfoil. It's just business as usual and has been for as long as theres been elections. The yanks are masters at it, when they do it in the open they call it promoting democracy.

You're just really fucking thick and historically illiterate.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Byline is just Exaro mk II isn't it. Exaro did some really good, really important, stuff but then fucked it. I can't say I follow Byline that closely and I'm sure they do some good stuff in there but I also get the sense they have seen a good audience in the more extreme fringes of remainerism and have gone for that full tilt. Some of it sails pretty close to conspiracy stuff doesn't it, same with Cadwalladr

 

[keybored]

Byline Times seems to be the last stand for investigative journalism.

Bellingcat.

 

[teqniq]

Bill Browder's evidence to the committee that produced the Russia report published in the Guardian.

Russia 'hired network of Britons to go after enemies of Putin'

Exclusive: MPs who drew up Russia report suppressed by PM were told of ‘infiltration’

www.theguardian.com

 

[MrSki]

There is a petition. Doubt it will do much good but will trigger a debate at 100,000.



Might publish it anyhow on a day when the Covid19 is major news like a shutdown or something.

 

[teqniq]

UK ministers will no longer claim 'no successful examples' of Russian interference

Change of official line is first admission that Kremlin may have distorted UK elections

www.theguardian.com

 

[Chilli.s]

The longer this takes the more fishy it smells.

 

[MrSki]

The longer this takes the more fishy it smells.

Caviar?

 

[teqniq]

Not a huge fan of Nick Cohen but this is a good piece by him:

The long arm of the Chekists | Nick Cohen | The Critic Magazine

This article is taken from the July 2021 issue of The Critic. To get the full magazine why not subscribe? Right now we’re offering five issue for just £10. Catherine Belton was a Moscow correspondent…

thecritic.co.uk

 

[teqniq]

Apparently it's Temerko not Tomerko but scum will do as well.

 

[teqniq]

My Twitter timeline seems to be awash with people outraged at the government's giving Russian oligarchs 30 days (or is it 50?) to liquify their UK investments and get their money out of the UK. It is not too difficult to see why. It would appear from the evidence at hand (large donations abound) that the vermin owe their Russian patrons big time. Then there is the sanctions list which in the UK would appear to be woefully inadequate compared to the US and EU:

Why have there been delays to UK Russia sanctions?

Many Russians were sanctioned more quickly by the EU and US than the UK.

www.bbc.com

 

[Chilli.s]

Should be freezing all their assets if not actually confiscating them. Who knows how much this is going to cost in the long run, frozen assets can become confiscated in the future but allowing all that dirty money to trickle through the states hands is stupid.

 

[IC3D]

I swear Boris was been on the phone apologising for the inconvenience too.

 

[likesfish]

Chance to get a free Royal yacht seize one of the dodgy Russian billionaires yachts.

Everyone's happy liz gets a new yacht
Dodgy russians pay for it.

Win win

 

[Pickman's model]

I swear Boris was been on the phone apologising for the inconvenience too.

grovelling and wheedling in that voice that makes you want to take a baseball bat to him

 

[teqniq]

Busted:

 

[quiet guy]

But in Liz's little brain 26 is greater than what all the others have done plus she's got to give all the friendly Tory donating oligarchs a head start to be able hide their money and assets.

 

[Lurdan]

Michael Gove accused of ‘Corbyn approach’ over seizure of oligarchs’ lavish UK homes — Telegraph (archived)

Lord Moylan, a former adviser to Mr Johnson at City Hall, said: "The Conservative Party is the party of property,” adding that property comes with “rights”.
He also warned against an approach assuming that "anyone who is rich must have got it stealing and anyone who is Russian must be guilty". He added: "We need some proof.” (...)

The first government source added: "It's got a revolutionary feel to it where any association is bad so we must cleanse ourselves. The problem with the Labour Party is that they are now just targeting Russian people,” as opposed to those specifically linked to Putin. The source added: “Many have escaped Putin to live in a free, democratic country."

 

[not-bono-ever]

seize everything and then ask for proof of it not being the product of criminal activity. the POCA already exists. if its good enough for cannabis dealers in hastings say, the its good enough for thieving oligarch scum. onus is on them

 

[Chilli.s]

seize everything and then ask for proof of it not being the product of criminal activity. the POCA already exists. if its good enough for cannabis dealers in hastings say, the its good enough for thieving oligarch scum. onus is on them

Yeah, we need a financially nuclear option, in case the fucknuts use a military nuclear option. Seize everything. Then confiscate as and when, or return if peace does.

20 plus years of dirty cash flowing into UK, confiscation would focus minds

 

[not-bono-ever]

unravel those expensively constructed shell companies in public or lose the lot. no loss apart from at the bar of Mayfair hotel or the black cod section of Nobu. fuck them

 

[planetgeli]

Oligarchs reek of corruption at the highest level.

On another thread we were discussing why some of these billionaires are called oligarchs, which seems specifically Russian billionaires. Oligarch means to rule by a few. But I wan't so sure how much ruling power they have. Because Putin seems an autocrat. Most of them got money through ripping off the poor and the collapsed state industries and institutions with the fall of the Soviet Union.

What I didn't realise (until an hour ago) was the sheer economic power they wielded by being...in a position...to control the economy. (Economic power being political power).

I was reading about Mikhail Fridman. Ukrainian born, oligarch, via technology (first), then banking and oil (it's always oil). So he helps get Yeltsin elected. And is named as one of the seven businessmen and bankers who controlled most of the economy and media in Russia in 1996. That's power. Enough power not to lose money as he fortunately (stroke of luck no doubt) sold off his Russian government securities in early August 1998 prior to the rouble crisis on August 17th of the same month.

Burn him.

No, but wait. He's Ukrainian. He's spoken out against the war.

Because he's had some assets frozen.

He owns Holland and Barrett for those who like boycotts (of overpriced homeopathic shit).

He is an oligarch, with economic ruling power. Ownership, control and production.

Burn him.

editor I think this belongs in the Ukraine war forum