Based on what? You hazarding a guess? Year on year the social attitudes survey says the opposite. The polls say the opposite. The election results say the opposite.
yeah, i agree. but i don't think that an openly fascist paper would be tolerated here. i don't think shops would sell it and i don't think that people (anti fash but also anyone decent) would let them get away with it if they did. Maybe i'm naive but I really don't think it would happen. Lots of people might be a bit nationalist but still madly opposed to fascism, there is a reason why there were thousands of battles in the streets in the 20s and 30s in germany and italy between the fash and other people who might even have been slightly racist but knew what they were. having slightly racist opinions might help fascism to develop but it won't mean you are a fascist, if they couldn't get the full support of the population of germany and italy where they took power, there would be no way they could get it here
Don't tell 'em your name Pike!Haha. The over-the-top-ness of that last line made me chuckle out loud.
yes: but what did the likes of stanley baldwin and ramsay macdonald do about it?
They didn't recognise it for what it was. Fascism did not get a hold here because of great ground up organising. The media was neither here nor there.
yes a lot of people didn't tolerate them, but on the streets there was no pre-war opposition similar to the post-war 43 group. a lot of people did tolerate them, and frankly a lot of people tolerate or even support fascists now. if there was a disciplined, organised, relatively honest far-right party then it would be challenging in elections, as the bnp's shown is possible. it's not that people don't tolerate them, but that they're so disorganised and shit that has in this country proved their greatest obstacle electorally.
YesThat's what i said thoughI think.
It's just that I don't think the daily mail has much to do with it, I also think a lot of their soft support would fall away if they were regularly doing the same stuff that Golden Dawn were doing (i mean beating immigrants up, padlocking a playground, involved in murders and other shit) a lot of people support fascists or think they do because of law and order, if they were regularly doing that stuff on a daily basis here some people would support it, but i think a lot of people here would be revolted by it. even in greece the post election polls show that golden dawn's support has dropped since the election by about half, altho i don't know how serious to take that. I dunno but I think most people are basically all right, I do believe that most people wouldn't agree with it and some would organise to stop them. Naive I know but I think most people are all right really, including the daily mail readers. I don't think that if there was a situation of them possibly getting to power that the majority of people would want to let them. and yeah a lot of people could support them but there's at least a large minority of their soft support that could be convinced (or convince themselves!) not to.
