The rise of fascism in the US

[SpineyNorman]

Removing guns from the civilian population of the USA is the biggest step you could take towards civilising the place. A civilian, other than in very limited circumstances, does not need to own a firearm.

You only think that because you're one of those hard left fascists and can't say how far is too far.

 

[gosub]

Removing guns from the civilian population of the USA is the biggest step you could take towards civilising the place. A civilian, other than in very limited circumstances, does not need to own a firearm.

Unconstitutional.

Nothing in the Constitution about bullet rationing. (Mentioned that once commenting on gang tragedy story on the Telegraph once...took 15minutes for NRA types to turn up though they did in numbers)

 

[Pickman's model]

Unconstitutional.

Nothing in the Constitution about bullet rationing. (Mentioned that once commenting on gang tragedy story on the Telegraph once...took 15minutes for NRA types to turn up though they did in numbers)

those Americans are so stupid that not one of them has ever thought of this, you must have chortled to yourself.

 

[gosub]

those Americans are so stupid that not one of them has ever thought of this, you must have chortled to yourself.

Not really. I can't remember which tragedy it was (there has been so many) but it was one of the armalite ones, and there was this group of about 10 that were trying to police the thoughts at the bottom of the Internet not just nationally but internationally. Shocked me actually. Stayed up til about 3 being told a bullet was an arm, despite licencing referencing arms and ammunition making them separate things.


Guns don't kill people, bullets do, seemed a reasonable compromise to me

 

[Ax^]

We're talking about schools.

"Liberals" ban "problematic" books in schools all the time.

Florida is simply putting the power in the hands of parents.

Gay sexual oritentation can be discussed in the classroom, but the parents get to decide when it's age appropriate to do so and if the teachers go up against the parents, then they will be breaking the law.

I admit it could have been better thought out, but the left wasn't complaining about the rights of parents when liberal teachers were trying to peddle highly sexual content to young children.

IMHO the fairest and most sensible policy would be that parents of a school decide which year sex education starts and it's all or nothing with sex education covering ALL issues including gender and sexual orientation.

I'm not a parent, but if I were, I would want the school to teach my kids (that I haven't had yet!) sex education from about the age of 11.

ok why is this wanksock still around

 

[Pickman's model]

Can't quite see a suitable thread for this - a reasoned, sane response to book banning in the US, from Illinois

for our american members the digital public library of america is making banned books accessible for free through an e-reader Digital Public Library of America Launches The Banned Book Club to Ensure Access to Banned Books

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

for our american members the digital public library of america is making banned books accessible for free through an e-reader Digital Public Library of America Launches The Banned Book Club to Ensure Access to Banned Books

A lot of people are also buying paper copies and placing them in coffee shops, on public benches or buses, or in little free libraries.

 

[krtek a houby]

Holy living fuck, just caught up with the last several pages.

It was a slow build up but Banned One got where he was always going, in the end.

 

[petee]

she criticized a right-wing government official.

#cancelculture

Texas A&M suspended professor accused of criticizing Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick in lecture

The professor, an expert on the opioids crisis, was placed on paid administrative leave and investigated, raising questions about the extent of political interference in higher education, particularly in health-related matters.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Cloo]

Wow, Greg Abbott is an absolute piece of shit.

Along Texas' floating border barrier, migrant children left bloody by razor wire

Along the Rio Grande, where state officials have stretched new barriers, migrants display the toll: Bruises, broken ankles and wounds stapled closed.

eu.usatoday.com

I bet he calls himself a Christian as well.

 

[krtek a houby]

Wow, Greg Abbott is an absolute piece of shit.

Along Texas' floating border barrier, migrant children left bloody by razor wire

Along the Rio Grande, where state officials have stretched new barriers, migrants display the toll: Bruises, broken ankles and wounds stapled closed.

eu.usatoday.com

I bet he calls himself a Christian as well.

Yeah, he's completely unrepentant and has told the government (who are suing?) that he'll see them in court and basically don't screw with Texas...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Yeah, he's completely unrepentant and has told the government (who are suing?) that he'll see them in court and basically don't screw with Texas...

He's banking on the new makeup of the Supreme Court to back him in claiming more power for himself. I'm not sure he's misjudged his chances there.

 

[krtek a houby]

He's banking on the new makeup of the Supreme Court to back him in claiming more power for himself. I'm not sure he's misjudged his chances there.

Any chance of secession, or is that movement done?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Any chance of secession, or is that movement done?

I'm sure Texas would be fine with it. There's always a loud faction there willing to leave, but the federal government would never allow it. It would be another civil war. Texas would lose and anyone with sense knows it. Texans, however, aren't known for sense.

 

[not-bono-ever]

just cruising through this thread. oh my. Was going to make some sarky comment about how moribund capitalism begets fascism but yeh

 

[Ax^]

Wow, Greg Abbott is a little piss baby

ctfy

look up Texas bill 20 for the start of this dysopia style shit in Texas

 

[teqniq]

More on Greg Abbot here:

Texas State Police Purchased Israeli Phone-Tracking Software for “Border Emergency”

Texas state police bought Israeli phone-tracking software as part of Gov. Greg Abbott’s troubled border crackdown.

theintercept.com

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Wow, Greg Abbott is an absolute piece of shit.

Along Texas' floating border barrier, migrant children left bloody by razor wire

Along the Rio Grande, where state officials have stretched new barriers, migrants display the toll: Bruises, broken ankles and wounds stapled closed.

eu.usatoday.com

I bet he calls himself a Christian as well.

He also is responsible for this:

The largest school district in Texas announced its libraries will be eliminated and replaced with discipline centers in the new school year.

Houston independent school district announced earlier this summer that librarian and media-specialist positions in 28 schools will be eliminated as part of superintendent Mike Miles’s “new education system” initiative.

Teachers at these schools will soon have the option to send misbehaving students to these discipline centers, or “team centers’” – designated areas where they will continue to learn remotely.

News of the library removals comes after the state announced it would be taking over the district, effective in the 2023-24 school year, due to poor academic performance. Miles was appointed by the Texas Education Agency in June.

In a press release announcing the schools participating in the “new education system” program, Miles said: “I am overwhelmingly proud that this many HISD school leaders are ready to take bold action to improve outcomes for all students and eradicate the persistent achievement and opportunity gaps in our district.”

Lisa Robinson, a librarian retired from the school district, told local news outlet KPRC2 that her “heart is just broken for these children that are in the [NES] schools that are losing their librarians”.

Houston’s mayor, Sylvester Turner, condemned the district’s move and said the solution to the problem of behavioral conduct was not to revoke access to books, especially in these underserved communities.

He said: “Are there students who need additional support? Yes, and I am 100% supportive of that. But it’s not an either/or. You don’t close the libraries, remove the librarians, and simply have the books on the shelf. What about all the other students? What are you saying to them?”

Houston school district to turn libraries into disciplinary centers

Critics condemn superintendent Mike Miles’s ‘new education system’ that removes students’ access to books

www.theguardian.com

Someone is going to have to help me understand how removing resources and replacing them with "disciplinary centers is going to improve the school. These students are already underserved (and no one will be shocked to hear that these are mostly minority students). One thing that librarians do is to teach information literacy. They teach people how to filter resources and tell good ones from bad, reliable sources from propaganda. Houston is also a major blue dot in a red state. I suppose you can make the case that you're preparing them for life after school by putting them in pre-prison prisons. More fodder for the "school to prison pipeline."

 

[Cloo]

That is some Orwellian shit right there. DISCIPLINE, NOT BOOKS. OBEDIENCE IS FREEDOM.

 

[two sheds]

Takes kids back to Victorian times in Britain

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Takes kids back to Victorian times in Britain

They haven't quite put the kids back in the mines, but they're sure working on it.

 

[two sheds]

And they don't have the chimneys they used to.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

And they don't have the chimneys they used to.

Don't worry, they have meat packing plants to clean.

Over 100 children illegally employed by US slaughterhouse cleaning firm

Labor department investigation finds Packers Sanitation Services Inc employed children between ages of 13 and 17 in eight states

www.theguardian.com

 

[Cloo]

They haven't quite put the kids back in the mines, but they're sure working on it.

Yeah, I hear they've been busy reducing limitations on child labour and kids are already being injured or dying in workplace accidents. Just like in old-time GREAT America

The US has a child labor crisis. Lawmakers are trying to make it worse. : Peoples Dispatch

Iowa just passed one of the most extreme pro-child labor bills in recent times, leaving employers off the hook if a child worker dies on the job

peoplesdispatch.org

 

[petee]

apparently 16 is legal for dangerous industrial work in WI

Wisconsin boy killed in sawmill accident was doing work allowed by state law, records suggest

A 16-year-old boy killed by an accident at a Wisconsin sawmill appears to have been doing work allowed by state child labor laws when he was injured.

apnews.com

 

[Cloo]

They don't need no education...

 

[krtek a houby]

They don't need no education...

Seriously dangerous shit.

 

[Cloo]

We can't have children learning left wing propaganda! They need right wing propaganda!

 

[krtek a houby]

We can't have children learning left wing propaganda! They need right wing propaganda!

Always wondered what are they so scared of?

 

[teqniq]

More vile unpleasantness courtesy of Greg Abbot: